Siddhis

[Soul]

Hi All,

Siidhis are seen as a science, so I thought here is a good place to post this...

I was recently reading a book by a swami where he cited a few stories of yogis performing siddhis such as one swami who manifests a sewing machine from Delhi. His master says it is no good as he is stealing from a shop...

In another story this Swami is hungry for 3 weeks and doesn't want to beg and he is sitting by the Ganga when all of a sudden a hand appears out of the river holding a bowl of food. He takes that bowl and it is a never ending food supply bowl... he keeps it for 3 years until his master tells him to throw it back into the Ganga...

Also...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFFmyy4MHks

I don't know about all this...

The stories may be just fiction, to put across a meaning...???

The levitating guy ???

I have no interest in learning about any of these things, and I didn't want to finish reading the book , as I feel it is a waste of time and I'd rather read some other scriptures which don't mention any of this. When I was younger I couldn't even read Yoganandas book for the same reason...

Anyone else have insights on this stuff??

I know Patanjali and others have written and said that focusing on Siddhis is a distraction to true liberation...

Love,
Soul

[Znanna]

Namaste,

I think that siddhis, "magick", are a by-product of joyful engagement with multiple possibilities.

Hey, when you define your own universe, who's to say what is or is not?



ZN

[yajvan]

Hari Om
~~~~~

Hi All,

Siidhis are seen as a science, so I thought here is a good place to post this...

I was recently reading a book by a swami where he cited a few stories of yogis performing siddhis such as one swami who manifests a sewing machine from Delhi. His master says it is no good as he is stealing from a shop...

In another story this Swami is hungry for 3 weeks and doesn't want to beg and he is sitting by the Ganga when all of a sudden a hand appears out of the river holding a bowl of food. He takes that bowl and it is a never ending food supply bowl... he keeps it for 3 years until his master tells him to throw it back into the Ganga...

Namaste Soul,
AS you get use to the neighborhood, there is a HDF folder on Yoga.
Inside that folder is a section/folder On Patanjali . A good place for Siddhi discussions as Patanjali offers his Yoga Sutras which outlines the method and siddhi's one could practice.

Here's one post that will lead you to this:
http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?t=909

My take and studies suggest siddhis are very possible and do-able. Many say they lead the sadhu astray , and I can see the truth in this. Yet my position is why would one of the greatest rishi's of yore ( Patanjali muni) consider siddhi's? What was he thinking to offer this up to folks on the path if it is a distraction? If the sutra's are stitches of wisdom, why would Patanjali-ji waste one breath at all on this and not pay attention to other area's of import?

IMHO these techniques assist to develop higher states of consciousness. To be able to have 'pure awareness' be active while one is active. Grooming samadhi for active life.

Can it go sideways? - I bet it can.

pranams,

[Soul]

Hey, when you define your own universe, who's to say what is or is not?

Very true...

For me, there is no bigger joy than abiding in/as Self...

I guess I want to know why so many stories about siddhis spread by yogis... what is the lesson or purpose?

I thought maybe someone may have ideas as to the purpose, because as I see it many yogis have goal of Self-realization and I don't at this point understand how siddhis have anything to do with Self-realization...

There is still an "i" that can "do" something special. Why show it to the public? Seems egoic...

ha, ha... lots of questions !

Something likes questioning ...

Love to All,
Soul

[Soul]

Thanks Yajvan,

Will read post...

And keep open..
seeing an opinion forming (or already formed) ...
now...
seeing not identifying with it...

Namaskar,
Soul

[satay]

Hi All,

Also...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFFmyy4MHks

I don't know about all this...

Soul

I do. It's a fake. Look at the 15 sec in the following video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3E1VPuLACo

[Soul]

Hi Satay,

Ha, Ha...
Yes , it's pretty clear to see on the 15th second.

Oh well , he might have made some money to buy some lunch

Peace to you,
Soul

[yajvan]

Hari Om
~~~~~

Namaste,


Satay's keen eye

It's a fake. Look at the 15 sec in the following video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3E1VPuLACo

the siddhi that Patanjali offers does not require a stick [ nor the one that sticks out horizontally from this individuals vertical pole ]. Nor does one lean-or-tilt to the left as this person is doing in the film clip.

It is the association of the body (Lagna) with akasha. Once this is made, then one can experience the lightness of an atom, or a fibre in the air, or what ever one chooses. Moving forward is all a matter of intent ...just the slightest intent. Just like when you walk - you do not go though a big conversation with yourself ' now I'm am going to get up and walk', you just have the slightest intent and the nervous system responds and does all the necessary circuitry. Like that , this intent is at the root of the siddhi when practiced correctly.

Siddhi's are not for spectacle purposes... one need not be a three ring circus to move their sadhana forward. Of this there is on doubt.


pranams,

[Eastern Mind]

My take on siddhis is that they are a boon to the awakened souls or about to be awakened souls. Really enlightened beings have them, but they are not part of ego. They are used to help the closest of disciples come closer to their quest. self-realisation. Clairvoyance, clairaudience, intuitive reading of past lives, etc are natural progressions. When one is in the presence of such souls, you can sometimes know of their siddhis..ie. a question being answered before its spoken aloud = clairaudience, but I believe this is because the enlightened one's guard was down. For ordinary Joe such as myself, a siddhi would be a curse, as my ego definitely wouldn't handle it. Aum Namasivaya

[Soul]

Namaskar Eastern Mind...

Yes, clairvoyance, clairaudience ...I can see that could be helpful in dispelling darkness in the mind of ignorance, if it develops ,as you say, as a natural progression...
It would be egoic to therefore think " I have such and such an ability"... Back in the realm of separation...

If these abilities do arise, there would be no ownership...

Aum Namah Shivaya..

Soul

Ps... Where is the ego that couldn't handle it? Is that not a thought?... What if that thought arose "I could not handle it" and you were to return to the place from where that thought arose? Discriminate.... between the real and not real... is the thought real?