Siddhis

[Eastern Mind]

Namaskar Eastern Mind...


Ps... Where is the ego that couldn't handle it? Is that not a thought?... What if that thought arose "I could not handle it" and you were to return to the place from where that thought arose? Discriminate.... between the real and not real... is the thought real?

I'm not sure what you're getting at. The ego that couldn't handle it is within me. I've had certain shall we say mystical experiences, and spouted it off based on my ego, and had repercussions for it. And yes of course its a thought. I still have thoughts. The thought is real. I am nowhere near the point in evolution where I can find the place where the "I" means the 'Self within" . My "I' is still ego based. Philosophically, and intellectually, I understand I think what you mean, but in intellectual honesty within myself, I do not identify with this "Self" we talk of. Not yet at least. It is destiny, although, given a few more lifetimes. At least we.ve heard of its existence. that's closer than 90% of the planet. Aum Namasivaya

[Soul]

Dear EasternMind...

It is thoughts such as these which veil the Self or keep you bound...

To quote you... "I am nowhere near the point in evolution where I can find the place where the "I" means the 'Self within" . My "I' is still ego based."...


Are you willing to let them go? Not deny they arise, or try and stop them arising again, but not believing them....see them for what they are .. thoughts...

This is the way to Self...

Moment by moment discriminate between the real ( the silence underneath the thoughts, or where the thoughts arise from, or that which allows thoughts to arise in the first place) from the unreal (thoughts, feelings)...
This doesn't mean you don't act on any thoughts...

Love,
Soul

[Eastern Mind]

Oh, don't get me wrong. I know exactly what you're saying. Its just that words are intellectual. "Wisdom is the application of knowledge." What I'm saying is that's its easy intellectually, but to apply it on a moment to moment basis, another story. That is what I find difficult. Those who spout that that's what they do are either misleading themselves, or actually are. I am thinking of Siva right now, because I am here, and looking at a picture of God as I write. But then, out in the forces of the world, where worldly decisions have to be made, and non-spiritual vibrations abound, it is far more difficult to maintain the concepts of "Its all God" or "just karma coming and going" or "I am just the channel" We are the self beyond the mind at all times, we just don't know it. For me its usually still an intellectual concept, except for instances while standing in front of Lord Siva at a temple, or whilst in meditation, or occasionally out in nature. I wish that weren't true, but I'm just being intellectually honest. Maybe I've seen too many people, so called devotees of God, who will have a nice spiritual discussion like this, all heavenly and all, act peacefully at the temple or at a meeting, and then yell at their children or wives to hurry up and get in the car. Perhaps that has led me to my touch of cynicism. Aum Namasivaya

[Soul]

Hi EasternMind...

There are so many thoughts that block actual experience... such as (to quote you)...

"But then, out in the forces of the world, where worldly decisions have to be made, and non-spiritual vibrations abound, it is far more difficult to maintain the concepts of "Its all God" "...

But you have to play around with such thoughts until you see for yourself that they are a hindrance to Self-realization...

I wouldn't waste my time looking at others and thinking they are not self-realized, such as the people you speak of at the temples...
Keep looking at yourself... focus your energy on seeing within yourself the thoughts that arise which stop you from seeing and living as your true Self....

It's continuous... moment by moment... one thought at a time...

Now... don't entertain any thought that it is difficult....

Now... Now and Now....until that thought has no power anymore...


Even if you do get caught in suffering , in reaction, in idea of separation (out in the world)... still, don't entertain any thought that it is difficult... don't entertain any thoughts of judgment...
As soon as you are aware that you are caught ... go back to where the thought came from...

Keep practicing... It will get easier....


Wishing you to see you ARE Peace itself...

Soul