A form of Taoism

[sarabhanga]

nara = sattvam = prAj�a = samyagdarshanam = buddha = gau
nArAyaNa = rajas = taijasa = saMghaj�Anam = saMgha = gAvau
nAra = tamas = vaishvAnara = samyakcAritram = dharma = gAvas

[sarabhanga]

When one perceives “my belief and your belief” and further perceives that “my belief” is being put down … it has to do with the sense of otherness.

Namaste Atanu and Bob,

Proudly defiant “otherness” is a sure sign of insecure dvaita understanding; whereas, humbly harmonious “togetherness” is sure sign of secure advaita understanding.

The dharmacakram is the ancient sign of the saura ~ the sign of sUrya, and the vaidika ideal of brahman. It is the symbol of time (both kAla and akala), the weapon of mahAkAla, the very form of kRSNa, and dharmacakra is integral to all trayIvidyA.

Every spoke of a wheel leads directly to the one hub, even though it appears that some of them point in completely opposite directions. Although, some apparent “spokes” may actually be mere stumps, cut off from the hub and (in effect) useless appendages or discarded fragments from the divine contraption, and if they are followed then the heart of the vortex will not be attained.

And even when following a true spoke, one must be sure to follow it in the correct direction ~ for every single path in reality travels in exactly two completely opposite directions, and only one of these leads to the source. Apparently opposite paths may lead to exactly the same point in the end, but just one defined path always ends at two exactly opposite destinations.

There are very many paths, but not all paths lead easily to god; and any true path (incorrectly followed) may equally be the quickest route to rebirth in hell!

sanAtana dharma knows that the paths to god are various; but only the ajAtivAda suggests that absolutely every path is in fact one path, since ajAtivAda denies absolutely that jIvAtman has ever been separated from paramAtman, and so there is no need (or possibility) of any so-called “paths to god”.

The non-existence of dharma is a reality ONLY for the highest yogin (e.g. guru dattAtreya), while the non-existence of variety in dharma is a personal reality for every serious sAdhaka, and the acceptance of internal diversity in the context of sanAtana dharma is an important lesson of the dharmacakra.

On the paths:
http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/sho...5688#post15688
http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/sho...7&postcount=27

On the path:
http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/sho...5628#post15628

On the guide:
http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/sho...0&postcount=30

[sarabhanga]

Now I am going to tell you something ~ It is avidyavidyA and advaitavAda and uttamasatyam ~ It is ajAtivacana.

Through the grace of god alone the desire for non-duality arises in wise men to save them from great fear. How shall I salute the formless being indivisible auspicious and immutable who fills all this with his self and also fills the self with his self? The universe composed of the five elements is like water in a mirage. To whom shall I make obeisance, I who am one and taintless? All is verily the absolute self, distinction and non-distinction do not exist. How can I say it exists it does not exist? I am filled with wonder !

[Bob G]

Hello Sarabhanga, Good quote,
I also like the one below by Chuang Tsu:


"What he likes is the One; what he does not like is also the One. That which is One is One; that which is not One is also One. He knows the One and is of heaven. He knows not the One and is of men. So heaven and men are not in conflict. Such is a true man..."

page 120, Feng/English translation

[Bob G]

Hello Atanu,

When you say: "Again this softest of the thing is Agni" I'm not sure of your correlation (?) for I believe in Taoism the element of water is normally used to mean the softest of things; along with its other metaphoric uses.

Good day,

Om

[atanu]

Hello Atanu,

When you say: "Again this softest of the thing is Agni" I'm not sure of your correlation (?) for I believe in Taoism the element of water is normally used to mean the softest of things; along with its other metaphoric uses.

Good day,

Om

Namaste Bob G,

It is the Self in the form of pure consciousness that is the subtlest beyond comprehension (softest in this context), but the kindler within is often equated to Agni (not the material kind which has a body).

I meant this kindler, which enters Vayu, Agni, and Water. They call it mystic Agni.

Om

[Bob G]

Atanu, 10/4 (as in CB code= acknowledged!)

[yajvan]

Hari Om
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Namaste Bob G,

It is the Self in the form of pure consciousness that is the subtlest beyond comprehension (softest in this context),

Namaste,

Even subtler then akasha, then pure space - so refined, and pure this awareness is, it even transcends space.
Some say the SELF is akasha, filled (then) with this consciousness. I like this notion as it allows one to get some 'feel' for this SELF.

I salute this SELF which is its own light, free from duality of the knower and known, subject and object. In it exists all things of this universe... Yoga Vasistha, On Dissolution or Upasanti Prakaranam (Chapt 5.34)

pranams,

[Bob G]

Goddess Quan Yin:

kwanyinlight.jpg

"It is generally accepted that Guanyin originated as the Sanskrit Avalokiteśvara (अवलोकितेश्वर), which is her male form. Another version suggests she originated from the Taoist Immortal "Ci Hang Zhen Ren". Commonly known in the West as the Goddess of Mercy, Guanyin is also revered by Chinese Taoists as an Immortal. The name Guanyin, also spelt Kuan Yin, is short for Kuan-shih Yin (Py.: Guānshì Yīn,) which means "Observing the Sounds (or Cries) of the World".

[yajvan]

Hari Om
~~~~~

Namaste,

Bob G , can you assist? I think this is germane to this string. Can you help explain the notion of tathatā from Buddhism? That is, thus-ness some say such-ness.
As I am trying to compare and contrast this notion to my POV, I thought you may be able to take a stab at it.

pranams