Namaste all.
I am really surprised to read what Shri Satay,who recognize him-self as a vaishnava,wrote:
Anyway, isn't there some mention of a liquid called 'Soma' somewhere in our scriptures? What the heck is 'soma'? Why devas drink this 'soma'? Why indra is talked about having dancing girls around in swarga?
So devas can have girls, pleasure, sex drink soma but mere mortals can not eh? What the heck kind of logic is that?
Hypocrisy as usual...
Dear Satay,please note that the human life form has to be used for spiritual realization in order to obtain Moksha.Devas are made for a life of pleasure.
Please read Srimad Bhagavata Purana,Canto 7,Chapter 6.By http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org/canto7/chapter6.html
(1) S'rî Prahlâda said: 'From one's childhood on should a person of intelligence practice the dharma of devotional service unto the Lord [as described in 7.5.23-24]; to be born in this human life is a temporary thing rarely achieved that is suffused with meaning. (2) That way [of meaning] indeed is of a living being here the approaching of the feet of Vishnu because this concerns the dearest and best one of all alive, the Master of the Soul [see also 3.25.38 and B.G. 5.29,]. (3) By divine ordinance is happiness to the sensual, o daitya's, everywhere available to all entities united with a material body, just as there is the unhappiness without one asking for it. (4) For that there is no need to endeavor, one would only waste one's life, and there is no need either to lust about it; the ultimate goal of life are the lotus feet of Mukunda [the Lord of Liberation]. (5) Therefore should a person of reflection as long as he [from old age] is not of failure, still being stout and strong, be after the real benefit of [Mukunda in] having a material life in a human body. (6) Of the hundred years that every person has for his life is a person in service of his senses indeed wasting half of his time as one sleeps half the day in ignorance being engulfed in darkness. (7) In one's childhood one is naive, as a boy one is playing and thus twenty years do pass and another twenty years pass being unable when one physically is incapacitated of old age. (8) And bewildered by formidable material lusts that can never be satisfied is the one overly attached to family matters madly wasting the remainder of his life. (9) What man attached to his household who, with hands and feet bound by the ropes of affection, is out of control with his senses, is able to free himself [see 1.2: 6-7]? (10) Who, indeed thinking that to make money is more desirable than to live [in devotion and gratitude], would be able to give up that acquisition for which merchant, thief and public servant risk their dear lives? (11-13) How can one give up on associating privately with one's loving wife so pleasing, not support with wisdom the family bound by their affection or what person would not be attracted to the prattle of children? With one's sons and married daughters, brothers, sisters and depending parents enshrined in one's heart, with all the household matters of very nice furniture, a good income and all the pets and the groups of servants and maidservants connected with the family, how can one give up; like a silkworm is one greedily occupied with all kinds of activities in desires that can never be satisfied considering the genitals and tongue the most important; how can such a massive illusion be forsaken? (14) Not for his lifetime does he understand to desist from the maintenance of his family; maddened spoiling the true purpose, at all fronts being distressed the threefold way [see 2.10: 8], has he no regrets about simply enjoying the family. (15) With a mind set on wealth and known with the fault of cheating out here for the money he nevertheless after having died is tied to this material world [by Yamarâja taking rebirth again] as he, too fond of his kin, never in peace with his desires, was out stealing in having no control over his senses. (16) Although knowing about it, o sons of Danu, is one busy with providing the greater family indeed not capable of understanding one's true self in entering the darkness of just like animals being estranged in a mine and thine conception of life. (17-18) Because never, anyone, wherever or whenever with a poor fund of knowledge will get any better in the art of liberating himself from looking after the lust being a sexual plaything and from being someone from whose bondage families expand, must you, my daitya friends in this keep yourselves far away from hiding with the demon that is too addicted to sensual pleasure; instead one should approach Lord Nârâyana, the original godhead, who by the association of the liberated lays out the desired path of liberation. (19) It is truly no great endeavor to satisfy the Infallible One, o asura sons, because in this world of all beings so close to the soul each and every respect is already established.
I am a brahmachary.
Please read what Srimad Bhagavata Purana,Canto 7,Chapter 12 says about Brahmacharys.
(7) He, not belonging to the householders life, must, to the as good as invincible senses that even take away the mind of a renunciate, give it up to address women with the observance of the great vow of celibacy [the yama of ashthânga-yoga]. (8) To brush the hair, massage the body, to bathe and rub it in with oil is something that the still young wife of the guru should never be allowed to do as a service if the adept is still young [see also 1.11:29]. (9) Especially the bewildered worship [of her] is like fire to the pot of butter that a man is; with other women, even with his own daughter, should he, living in seclusion, not associate more than is needed. (10)
Reply With Quote
Originally Posted by Bhakta of God
Bookmarks