Namaste Rajalakshmi,
The
fifth is a Vedic knowledge and I can post the verses.
But consider that you can do Agni Dharana by attaining Agni's form. Then you come back and live fearlessly, knowing that Agni will not burn you. Yet, this does make you greater than Agni.
Turya is anadimat (beginningless) Self. You may attain it fully and then fearlessly enjoy the goodies of Brahmaloka (objects and women as Chandogya Upanishad says; women in Brahmloka being speech/poetry). That is Sahaja Samadhi and Turiyatita. Or of Uttama Purusha (as Chandogya describes). A Turiyatita sage does not exceed Turya, which is anadimat Self.
Another example may make it more clear. We, the ignorant ones, go to Shushpti and sleep while a knower of the fourth (Atman) can enjoy the Pragnya Ghana in any fashion -- fearlessly. That is Brahmaloka.
Turya is unchangeable and infinite without any boundaries as it has no internal or external world. Mandukya certainly does not indicate in any fashion that the fourth has mind space awareness. In fact, Mandukya says:
7. The Fourth is thought of as that which is not conscious of the internal world, nor conscious of the external world, nor conscious of both the worlds, nor dense with consciousness, nor simple consciousness, nor unconsciousness, which is unseen, actionless, incomprehensible, uninferable, unthinkable, indescribable, whose proof consists in the identity of the Self (in all states), in which all phenomena come to a cessation, and which is unchanging, auspicious, and non-dual. That is the Self; that is to be known.
It has neither internal awareness nor external awareness. It is not unconsciousness also. By sheer inevitable inference it can be held to be the real Prabhu/Drasta as Turya is the Reality of Reality (reality being Life force). Similarly one abiding in Turya can definitely not say "I am Brahman". Such a person has no inner and outer sense, how can he say I? One can say so, on coming down after knowing the truth.
Regards,
Om
Nothing surpasses the Self. If any one were to surpass Self, then that person would be devoid of a self.
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