Re: ātman - Stretched Out
Dear all divine Soul,
I also,before post comment in this matter with the view of Upanishad,Now I want to describe Atman or self in other view.
The Holy Bible also states that God is Spirit (John 4:23-24) and he who worships Him worships in Spirit. Psalm 139: 7-10 states that God is a Spirit that is everywhere. Luke (24:39) states that Spirit does not have flesh and bones. No word or image can express or describe the magnitude of God.
That mean Atman is self and self is God,In this point the Hastamalaka Stotra Give a great philosophical thought.
Who is I?
Ans.-I am neither man, God, yaksha, brahmin, kshatriya,
vaisya, sudra, brahmachari, householder, forest-dweller, nor
sannyasi; but I am pure awareness alone.
That mean I m pureawarness.But how i m pure awarness,when I have desire?
Ans:-
"Desire is the root cause of Sorrow", says Buddha. The desire ridden mind is impure. Other impurities like anger or jealousy are its side products. When obstructed desire becomes anger, when someone else enjoys what one desires, it turns into jealousy. When one gets what one wanted, greed or pride arises.
Mind is considered as two-fold: pure and impure. It is impure with the resolve of personal desire. It is pure when devoid of all selfish desires -AMRITABINDU UPANISHAD
Mind binds, mind liberates! Thoughts are the medium through which the ego, the limited Self, appears and paves the way for all our likes and dislikes, pleasure and pain. Innocence of a child is free from attachment or hatred. As we reach deep within ourselves--we see this childlike nature of pure--undivided awareness due to attachment to sense objects. We pursue pleasure out of mere habit and not as a true need. Paying attention to the subtle ways our mind is indeed desire-less state. This thought is reflected in the 2nd mantra: "Mind alone is the cause of bondage and liberation for human beings. The mind attached to sense objects leads to bondage and that which is free of sense objects sets one free. So it is said". -
AMRITABINDU UPANISHAD
So u need to purify ur Citya or mind that u can attained pure awarness.
Wat is the quality of this Atman?
Ans.-Just as the sun causes all worldly movements, so do I
-- the ever-present, conscious Self -- cause the mind to be
active and the senses to function. Again, just as the ether is
all-pervading, yet devoid of any specific qualities, so am I
free from all qualities.
How this self is define?
Ans.-Just as the reflection of the sun on agitated waters
seems to break up, but remains perfect on a calm surface, so
also am I, the conscious Self, unrecognizable in agitated
intellects though I clearly shine in those which are calm.
How this self act when in bondage and when without bondage?
Ans.-Self under bondage "I am the conscious Self, ever-present and associated
with everything in the same manner as heat is always
associated with fire. I am that eternal, undifferentiated,
unshaken Consciousness, on account of which the insentient
mind and senses function, each in its own manner."
Self withoutbondage or libaration.
Jehovah said to enquiring Moses who asked Him His name, came the reply, ―I am Who I am‖(Exodus 3:14). Jesus Christ said the same thing by saying that: ―Before Abraham was, I am‖ Jesus also said, ―I and the Father are one‖(John,10:30). Jesus Christ made more than seven statements beginning with ―I am‖in the New Testament .
Several times Jesus said, ―God is Spirit, Spirit meaning Brahman, Atman, Truth etc. He also said, ―The Father abiding in me doeth His work‖ So, all that shows that God is within you and everything is God‖
From Ashtavakra Gita (॥ अष्टावक्र गीता ॥)
Janaka: How is knowledge to be acquired? How is liberation to
be attained? And how is dispassion to be reached? Tell me this,
sir.
Ashtavakra: If you are seeking liberation, my son, shun the
objects of the senses like poison. Practise tolerance, sincerity,
compassion, contentment and truthfulness like nectar.
You do not consist of the elements - earth, water, fire, air or even
ether. To be liberated, know yourself as consisting of
consciousness, the witness of these.
If only you will remain resting in consciousness, seeing yourself
as distinct from the body, then even now you will become happy,
peaceful and free from bonds.
You do not belong to the brahmin or any other caste, you are not
at any stage, nor are you anything that the eye can see. You are
unattached and formless, the witness of everything - so be
happy.
Righteousness and unrighteousness, pleasure and pain are
purely of the mind and are no concern of yours. You are neither
the doer nor the reaper of the consequences, so you are always
free.
You are the one witness of everything, and are always
completely free. The cause of your bondage is that you see the
witness as something other than this.
Since you have been bitten by the black snake, the opinion about
yourself that "I am the doer", drink the antidote of faith in the
fact that "I am not the doer", and be happy.
Burn down the forest of ignorance with the fire of the
understanding that "I am the one pure awareness", and be happy
and free from distress.
That in which all this appears - imagined like the snake in a rope,
that joy, supreme joy and awareness is what you are, so be
happy.
If one thinks of oneself as free, one is free, and if one thinks of
oneself as bound, one is bound. Here this saying is true,
"Thinking makes it so".
Your real nature is as the one perfect, free, and actionless
consciousness, the all-pervading witness - unattached to
anything, desireless and at peace. It is from illusion that you
seem to be involved in samsara.
Meditate on yourself as motionless awareness, free from any
dualism, giving up the mistaken idea that you are just a
derivative consciousness, or anything external or internal.
You have long been trapped in the snare of identification with
the body. Sever it with the knife of knowledge that "I am
awareness", and be happy, my son.
You are really unbound and actionless, self-illuminating and
spotless already. The cause of your bondage is that you are still
resorting to stilling the mind.
All of this is really filled by you and strung out in you, for what
you consist of is pure awareness - so don't be small minded.
You are unconditioned and changeless, formless and immovable,
unfathomable awareness and unperturbable, so hold to nothing
but consciousness.
Recognise that the apparent is unreal, while the unmanifest is
abiding. Through this initiation into truth you will escape falling
into unreality again.
Just as a mirror exists everywhere both within and apart from its
reflected images, so the Supreme Lord exists everywhere within
and apart from this body.
Just as one and the same all-pervading space exists within and
without a jar, so the eternal, everlasting God exists in the totality
of things.
So atman is like space when its free.
Jesus often said ―The kingdom of God is within you‖
This is the kingdom of god.Self without bondage.
Thanks
Om purnam adah, purnam idam, purnat purnam udacyate; purnasya purnam adaya puram evavasisyate
Om Santih! Santih! Santih
That is Full; this is full. From the Full does the Full proceed. After the coming of the Full from the full, the Full alone remains
Om. Peace! Peace! Peace!
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