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Yes, it depends on where one draws the boundary in the indivisible.Originally Posted by chandu_69
In the page you cited there is: (109. And to Allah belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And all matters go back (for decision) to Allah.)
This is not surely a local warlord.
Om Namah Shivaya
That which is without letters (parts) is the Fourth, beyond apprehension through ordinary means, the cessation of the phenomenal world, the auspicious and the non-dual. Thus Om is certainly the Self. He who knows thus enters the Self by the Self.
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Muhammad was a local war lord and it is he who interpreted(edited) what is in quran.Quran praises muhammad as the best of humans and there is even a verse where Allah and his angels pray on muhammad.
Btw, muhammad's version of Allah is certainly grandoise in some parts of quran and in other parts he(Allah) behaves like a petty,vindictive street arab(Chapter 111).
Last edited by chandu_69; 31 July 2009 at 08:12 AM. Reason: Grammatical mistake
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Interpreter is always in the now.
That which is without letters (parts) is the Fourth, beyond apprehension through ordinary means, the cessation of the phenomenal world, the auspicious and the non-dual. Thus Om is certainly the Self. He who knows thus enters the Self by the Self.
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I have no problems with appreciation of all faiths, but we need to be wary of Islam and missionary Christianity both having the potential to dislodge the foundations of sanAtana dharma - the former by the use of sword and the latter by the use of deceit.
Tolerance is respecting an alternate point of view while politely disagreeing with the view. Tolerance can exist only mutually.
All religions can be appreciated or degraded based on select quotations. But what is the reality? We must appreciate another faith only if it deserves it.
Islam was founded in violence, spread by violence and now trying to take over the world by violence. Muhammed fought in 79 wars and only a few of them were fought in self defence. Islamic countries are at constant war with one another and with their neighbours. Most of the wars in the otherwise peaceful world today are related to Islamic monotheism.
Guard your Dharma, Burn the Myth, Promote the Truth, Crush the superstition.
OM Gam Ganapatye Namaha
I think you will find that the Naqshbandi Haqqanis and other sufi groups are very open to other faiths. check out www.naqshbandi.org
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Nice day dreams, Atanu. Now for some nightmares.
A fire has been prepared for the disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones. 2:24
Disbelievers will be burned with fire. 2:39, 2:90
Allah has cursed them for their unbelief. 2:88
The curse of Allah is on disbelievers. 2:89
Only evil people are disbelievers. 2:99
Reminds me. Are you evil or a muslim?
For disbelievers is a painful doom. 2:104
For you, Atanu, a painful doom awaits.
Disbelievers are losers. 2:121
Sure, sure. Look at any muslim country.
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Sorry rc. Can't believe that you are 60. I however pray that the doom should not touch you.
That which is without letters (parts) is the Fourth, beyond apprehension through ordinary means, the cessation of the phenomenal world, the auspicious and the non-dual. Thus Om is certainly the Self. He who knows thus enters the Self by the Self.
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Pray for yourself, Atanu. Don't worry about me.
chandu
Like any scriptural texts quran verses have to understood in context i.e. when the context is available.The tafsirs provide the context(using the hadiths).
The context for Verse 2:39(quoted by rcscwc) is here
http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?opt...=view&id=395#1
"(39. But those who disbelieve and belie Our Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) ـ such are the dwellers of the Fire. They shall abide therein forever.'')"
the tafsir continues quoting other verses in support of 2:39
(But whosoever turns away from My Reminder (i.e. neither believes in this Qur'an nor acts on its teachings) verily, for him is a life of hardship, and We shall raise him up blind on the Day of Resurrection.) (20:124) is similar to what Allah stated here,
(But those who disbelieve and belie Our Ayat ـ such are the dwellers of the Fire. They shallThey shall abide therein forever), meaning, they will remain in Hell for eternity and will not find a way out of it.
chandu
Allah revealed quran so that islam prevails over all other religions.That is the statement from quran.
quran:
9:33
P: He it is Who hath sent His messenger with the guidance and the Religion of Truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religion, however much the idolaters may be averse.
repeated in 48:28
He it is Who hath sent His messenger with the guidance and the religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religion.
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