why iskon followers dont like lord shiva

[ranjeetmore]

Namaste harjas ji,

You are correct. Param Atman, Param Brahman is Shiva- the Good. There is shruti proof for that. Mahesh on the other hand, is Shiva employing himself in a role of Lord. Similarly, Shiva is without a second but when He sees the universe then He pervades.

Else what is there to pervade for the Param Brahman?

Om Namah Shivaya

shiva is God,no doubt,but He is not some formless substance that appeals to your intellect.

He is Pure White in color,Supremely beautiful.He has 5 heads and 10 arms.He has an actual solid dhama called Sadashivloka,situated in Pravyoma and He is accepted in the bhagavatam to be a personality of Godhead.

And the most imp. thing : Jeevatma is NOT SHIVA.

[SANT]

shiva is God,no doubt,but He is not some formless substance that appeals to your intellect.

If that is true then what is the significance of shiva ling.
Doesnt shiv ling represent lord sada shiv?

[Shaan]

Well I have no info about ISKCON practices neither have seen any of their temples or discources, But this is somewhat like a goswami tulsidas bhakti, tulsidas ji was too deep in shri ram bhakti, that he had debate with soordas who was a krishna bhakt, tulsidas ji told him, so what krishna is a form of vishnu too which ram is also, But I wont do namaskar to krishna unless he comes in a pitambar wearing a bow and archer. So this can be the case in ISKCON bhakti too. They are too deep in krishna bhakti possibly.

Other instance of deep bhakti is in sri ganesh puran, which tells what deep bhakti is, there was a bhakt of sri ganesh called nemaa he was too deep in ganesh bhaktiyog and always in ganesh chintan that he developed a soond like ganesh ji, his face started looking like sri ganesh, so real bhaktiyog means we have to be a replica of the deity we are in deep love with, our characteristics and features get developed same like the deity if we really do bhaktiyog.

[atanu]

Well I have no info about ISKCON practices neither have seen any of their temples or discources, But this is somewhat like a goswami tulsidas bhakti, tulsidas ji was too deep in shri ram bhakti, that he had debate with soordas who was a krishna bhakt, tulsidas ji told him, so what krishna is a form of vishnu too which ram is also, But I wont do namaskar to krishna unless he comes in a pitambar wearing a bow and archer. So this can be the case in ISKCON bhakti too. They are too deep in krishna bhakti possibly.

Other instance of deep bhakti is in sri ganesh puran, which tells what deep bhakti is, there was a bhakt of sri ganesh called nemaa he was too deep in ganesh bhaktiyog and always in ganesh chintan that he developed a soond like ganesh ji, his face started looking like sri ganesh, so real bhaktiyog means we have to be a replica of the deity we are in deep love with, our characteristics and features get developed same like the deity if we really do bhaktiyog.

Namaste shaan

An excellent post. Not sure whether the sentence highlighted with blue fonts holds true or not, especially in relation to bhakti of surdas or of tulsidas? But Thanks. Shaan's post is valuable for me for an understanding of some teachings of Gita.

Om Namah Shivaya