Originally Posted by
Singhi Kaya
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My question to advaitins is why do you think we need this transcendental aspect of god. Except for the emotional satisfaction of theism as opposed to agnosticsm or atheism, what else does nirguna brahman supply??
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Namaskar,
Nirguna Brahman supplies everything. Everything exists in air, which supports all. But does a common man understand it till his breath is choked? Similarly, everything exists on and because of an unchanging entity. It is not a requirement but it is the substratum and foundation.
All that you percieve to be changing, how do you percieve, if there is no constant seer how do you know the ever changing flux? However, without Vedas and Upanishads telling us about it, we would'nt know.
Why we need it? To attain moksha. It is to be known. It is your Self -- unchanging seer, enjoyer, permitter. What you know without knowing the Self?
Nirguna is desireless but all desires and consequent happenings are happening in it only. For personal welfare and for universal welfare, it must be known. It is the storehouse of Shakti -- even to propitiate Shakti, one must know it.
Isha Upanishad
4. Unmoving, It is one, faster than the mind. The senses cannot reach It, for It proceeds ahead. Remaining static It overtakes others that run. On account of Its presence, Matarsiva (the wind) conducts the activities of beings.
5. It moves; It moves not. It is far; It is near. It is within all; It is without all.
6. He who perceives all beings in the Self alone, and the Self in all beings, does not entertain any hatred on account of that perception.
7. When a man realises that all beings are but the Self, what delusion is there, what grief, to that perceiver of oneness?
8. That (Self) is all-pervading, radiant, bodiless, soreless, without sinews, pure, untainted by sin, the all-seer, the lord of the mind, transcendent and self-existent. That (Self) did allot in proper order to the eternal Prajapatis known as samvalsara (year) their duties.
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14. He who knows both the Unmanifested and the destructible (Hiranyagarbha) together, transcends death by the (worship of) the destructible and attains immortality by the (worship of ) the Unmanifested.
So must know THAT. It is the intelligence everywhere.
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