Originally Posted by
sm78
--- So if we avoid fiting and inverting the customs to our personal beliefs, one cannot deny the preparatory nature of seva dharma and general restriction on spairitual endevours of women and shudras.
Namaste SM.
As expected. Welcome.
But your belief or mine? Can you show one shruti that women are denied spiritual endeavors? OTOH, Parvati herself is the brightest example of the opposite. There are Risikas mentioned in Upanishads and to Risikas are ascribed some of the finest Rig Veda verses.
This is not what the quran says. This is not what Mr Muhammed did. Ah...I keep saying the same things...sorry..
Well.29. O ye who believe! Squander not your wealth among yourselves in vanity, except it be a trade by mutual consent, and kill not one another. Lo! Allah is ever Merciful unto you.
30. Whoso doeth that through aggression and injustice, We shall cast him into Fire, and that is ever easy for Allah.
32. And covet not the thing in which Allah hath made some of you excel others. Unto men a fortune from that which they have earned, and unto women a fortune from that which they have earned. (Envy not one another) but ask Allah of His bounty. Lo! Allah is ever Knower of all things.
177. It is not righteousness that ye turn your faces to the East and the West; but righteous is he who believeth in Allah and the Last Day and the angels and the Scripture and the Prophets; and giveth his wealth, for love of Him, to kinsfolk and to orphans and the needy and the wayfarer and to those who ask, and to set slaves free; and observeth proper worship and payeth the poor due. And those who keep their treaty when they make one, and the patient in tribulation and adversity and time of stress. Such are they who are sincere. Such are the God fearing.
178. O ye who believe! Retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the murdered; the freeman for the freeman, and the slave for the slave, and the female for the female. And for him who is forgiven somewhat by his (injured) brother, prosecution according to usage and payment unto him in kindness. This is an alleviation and a mercy from your Lord. He who transgresseth after this will have a painful doom.
32. For that cause We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being for other than man slaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if be had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had: saved the life of all mankind. Our messengers came unto them of old with clear proofs (of Allah's sovereignty) , but afterwards lo! many of them became prodigals in the earth.
Retailiation is prescribed only in case of murders. Aggression and injustice are verily prohibited. But most aggressors think that theie aggressions are justified -- that is rationalisation by the ego. Similarly many are guided to mis-interpret scripture by ego-drive. Coveting the wealth and God gifted qualities of others is also prohibited -- a la Isha Upanishad. Still most aggressions on India were driven by covetous looters who wanted only wealth.
Om
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