Originally Posted by
srivijaya
Hi saddha,
I've never heard this version of the story before. It appears that there are many versions in circulation.
There are plenty of accounts in Tibetan Buddhism of Nagas being subdued and subsequently serving Buddha Dharma. Buddha will teach any being, if that being has the capacity to learn and understand. Buddha has compassion for all sentient beings. As the Dharma is the truth, then it is indestructible. The acts of demons and so forth are acts committed within ignorance. The truth may be clouded or obscured but never touched by this.
We have the Lanka Avatar sutra where Buddha supposedly teaches Ravana, a demon.
Absolutely NOT.
Buddha's Dharma kaya CANNOT BE KNOWN TO ANY DEMON! What the demon's see is NOT the REAL BUDDHA, only an image.
A demon must purify his heart in order to become a Sangha member, that is why Buddha is the Kaliyuga avatar -- in a way, we are in this darkness because we are all demonic in nature.
That's the only reason we reject Buddha, because our hearts are not pure enough.
I think many Shaivites and Buddhists would take issue with that, if we are looking at externals, like worship and ritual etc. Perhaps there is a case to be made for Nirvana equating with Shiva in stasis of the deepest mode (Parama Shiva?) not sure of the correct terminology here.
Interesting points you have raised here though.
Namaste
I am not here to please Shaivites (who without Buddha cannot be called real Shaivites) or those who call themselves "Buddhists" and remain ignorant of Shiva in Bodha Dharma. I only speak about the truth -- if the truth not please those who are prejudiced and impure in mind, so be it.
Nirvana is spoken of as "sivam" in the earliest Buddhist scriptures. It is the auspicious.
Samyutta Nikaya IV gives the synonyms of Nibbana:
asankhata/the unconditioned,
antam/the end,
anasavam/without cankers,
saccam/the truth,
param/the ultimate,
nipunam/the subtle,
sududdasam/the very hard to see,
ajaram/the no-decay,
dhuvam/the stable,
apalokitam/the taken leave of,
anidassanam/the non-indicative,
nippapam/the without impediment,
santam/the peace,
amatam/the deathless,
panitam/the excellent,
sivam/the auspicious
khemam/the security,
tanhakkhaya/the destruction of tanha,
acchariyam/the wonderful,
abbhutam/the astonishing,
anitikam/the freedom from harm,
anitikadhammam/the state of freedom from harm,
nibbanam,
avyapajjho/the harmless,
virago/non-attachment,
suddhim/purity,
mutti/the release,
analayo/the done away with,
dipam/the island,
lena/the cave,
tanam/the shelter,
saranam/the refuge,
and parayanam/the ultimate goal.
In Buddhism Sivam describes the Sublime state of Supreme Bodhi or Knowledge and Peace of Nibbana
In the Samyukta Nikaya 7:18
I say it is marvelous. You look so happy, alone in the forest.
Accherarūpaṃ paṭibhāti maṃ idaṃ,
Yadekako pītimano vane vase.
I’m guessing you’re longing for the three highest
Heavens, there to befriend the Lord of the World.
‘‘Maññāmahaṃ lokādhipatisahabyataṃ,
Ākaṅkhamāno tidivaṃ anuttaraṃ;
Why do you choose the forest without people?
Are you practicing austerities to attain the highest Brahma?
Kasmā bhavaṃ vijanamaraññamassito,
Tapo idha kubbasi brahmapattiyā’’ti.
Buddha replies:
6. ßAll doubts, all enjoyments or to be established in various elements forever
Spring from desires not knowing the root cause
I have destroyed them completely
I am without doubts free from greed and undertakings
I have a pure vision of all Dhammas
‘‘Svāhaṃ akaṅkho asito anūpayo,
Sabbesu dhammesu visuddhadassano;
Having gained the sublime, highest awakening.
Pappuyya sambodhimanuttaraṃ sivaṃ,
I meditate, priest, in ripened seclusion.
Jhāyāmahaṃ brahman raho visārado’’ti.
Brahmin, I concentrate secretly, with confidence.
So here I stand on the truth.
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