Originally Posted by
Ganeshprasad
Pranam Devotee ji
Atman has no dilemma so whose upadhi is this?
Jai Shree Krishna
Namaste ganeshprasad ji,
I think, there is some confusion regarding Atman and 'man' (mind)'. Although, I know that this dillemma cannot be resolved until experiencing the distinction between the Mind (which knows and thinks) and the Atman (which is the source of the mind and which is mere Existence-Intelligence-Bliss but yet not a knower and thinker; there is a reason why Shiva is bholenath and Vishnu is smart).
But let me try.
From the same Atman arises the Mind that is Isa (bird which does not eat anything) and another restless mind, whose name is craving, Jiva -- the darting toungue of fire. Jiva and Isa are different, yet they are both nothing but Atman. This much only is advaita, which never proclaims that Isa and Jiva are the same. It only says that the Atman-Brahman is without a second.
Some confusion also arises because most (vaisnavas) pay great importance towards rulership and thus confuse Atman with Prajapatis. Prajapatis and we poor jivas have same Atman, but hugely different functionalities. The Self is not the ruler directly.
Isa Upanishad
8. That (Self) is all-pervading, radiant, bodiless, soreless, without sinews, pure, untainted by sin, the all-seer, the lord of the mind, transcendent and self-existent. That (Self) did allot in proper order to the eternal Prajapatis known as samvalsara (year) their duties.
Om Namah Shivaya
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