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    Re: I want to learnmore about God Siva

    Namaste,

    My wife and I are going to offer puja for Lord Ganesha tonight. At our home we are going to use jasmine incense

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    okay so we did it. What we did is i lit the incent stick and she offered it with her right hand and she said we offer this to you Lord Ganesha and I said please accept. She waved the smoke around the image. Then we placed the incent on the holder and we sat before the image and visualized Lord Ganesha and prayed to him.

    Now i have question in the morning when we wake up do we have to get a complete bath before puja or can we just wash up a bit?

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    I recommend getting a complete bath, It doesn't matter if you spend only 5 minutes in bathroom, but please take a bath. A bath will physically and mentally prepare you for puja. It will also change you whole day. A bath will also make you wake up early, which is good, because we get more good and positive thought in the morning then any other time. I think bath is necessary for morning puja. but it might be just me. I would even say that we should take a bath everyday.
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    Re: I want to learnmore about God Siva

    hariḥ oṁ
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiritualseeker View Post
    Namaste,
    I want to learn more about Lord Siva so that I can draw close to him. Can someone please help me out.
    Namast juan
    IMHO to know more about Śiva is to know more about fullness. And what is this fullness? A quality of Brahman is bhūma, fullness.


    The fullness of the relative field of life and that of the Absolute. The sum total of all is Brahman seen, and unseen, time and timeless, past , present or future.

    This bhūma represents or is the name of this grand-total fullness.
    If we go to the Chāndogya Upaniṣad (chapter 7) and the great student ( Nārada) asks his teacher/guru: What is this bhūma? What is this Fullness?

    "Do you want to know what Completeness is? And do you want to know what finitude is? Here is the definition," says Sanatkumāra [ the ṛṣi of the vidyā] . "Where one sees nothing except one's own Self, where one hears nothing except one's own Self, where one understands nothing except one's own Self, that is Bhuma, the Absolute; and where one sees something outside oneself, where one hears something outside oneself, where one understands or thinks something outside oneself, that is the finite ( or alpa - small , minute , trifling , little)."
    and where can it be found?

    "O my dear Nārada, your question itself is unfounded and unwarranted. Why do you ask where It is, as if It is in space? But if you want me to tell you where It is, I say It is in space, It is in every nook and corner, in every pinpoint of space. There is no space where It is not; there is no space which It does not occupy."


    praṇām
    यतस्त्वं शिवसमोऽसि
    yatastvaṁ śivasamo'si
    because you are identical with śiva

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    Namaste,

    It is good to hear from you I miss your posts. This is a beautiful description of that Infinite Truth. I want to also let you know that I am going to be starting the Self Realization Fellowship lessons. Perhaps they will help me learn more and more to touch this absolute ultimate Reality that is within all things and is not but in entirety all that is.

    Please wish me luck.
    Thank you very much
    -Juan

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhruva023 View Post
    I recommend getting a complete bath, It doesn't matter if you spend only 5 minutes in bathroom, but please take a bath. A bath will physically and mentally prepare you for puja. It will also change you whole day. A bath will also make you wake up early, which is good, because we get more good and positive thought in the morning then any other time. I think bath is necessary for morning puja. but it might be just me. I would even say that we should take a bath everyday.
    Thank you Dhruva. But to clarify its not that I dont wash everyday lol. Its just early in the morning I can wake my wife. Our bathroom is in our bedroom its the only bathroom in our apartment. Usually I just crawl out of bed and go to the living room for meditation. I am very clean and hygenic and I learn most of that from my 7 years in Islamic dogma hehe.

    with love
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    Re: I want to learnmore about God Siva

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiritualseeker View Post
    http://allsaivism.tripod.com/snakes.html

    The Symbolism of Snakes in Saivism

    Lord Siva is depicted in many images like the one above as wearing a garland of snakes around his neck. There is a deep symbolism hidden behind this. Lord Siva is know as Pasupathinath, the lord of all creatures. Being a lord of the animals he has complete control on their behavior. Since a snake is one of the most feared and dangerous animals in the world, the garland of snakes around the neck firmly establishes this fact even the snakes fear Him and remain under his control.
    The snake stands for all the evil and demonical nature in the world. By wearing the snake around his neck, Lord Siva gives us the assurance that no evil can touch us or destroy us once we surrender to him, seek his protection and worship him with deep devotion.
    The snake also stands for the power of kundalini, which is described as a coiled serpent lying dormant in the muladhara chakra of all human beings and descends upwards when one starts ones spiritual journey and becomes increasingly divine oriented. The snake around the neck of Siva conveys the meaning that in him the kundalini not only has arisen fully but is also actively involved in the divine activity by keeping an eye on all the devotees who approach Siva with their individual problems.
    The snake also stands for all passions and desires. By wearing the snakes around his neck, Lord Siva conveys the message to all his devotees that He has overcome all desires and is in full control of Prakriti, or maya and its various machinations.
    Snakes( both nAga-s and sarpa-s) technically denote entire system of nADi-s in the subtle body with nAga-s being a higher class. Lord Shiva and Lord garuDa have unusually similar qualities in that both symbolically wear eight major snakes. The wearer of the snakes must be a person who has complete domination of the snakes isnt it?

    garuDa's story on his enimity with snakes and its association with the fetching of amrita is an important story in Mahabharata. It is in the Astika parva. Reading those sections very carefully will lead to the understanding of the snakes in the body. ( bhAratavarsha is the microcosm - the human body)
    Guard your Dharma, Burn the Myth, Promote the Truth, Crush the superstition.

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    Re: I want to learnmore about God Siva

    I always believe that not all people have the chance to discover Shiva. I think there is some connection between you and Shiva, in past lives, and that is the reason you are now discovering Shiva. They say that people have different destinies, people have various tendencies. I feel that your tendencies and destiny, both are Shiva. Blessed are you.

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    Re: I want to learnmore about God Siva

    Namaste,

    Thank you for your encouraging words. I hope to realize parasiva here and now

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    This is a very nice article on attaining Self Realization via Supreme Shiva consciousness.

    http://satya-narayana.sulekha.com/bl...sciousness.htm

    Also another article on attainment of turiya state on Maha Shiva Ratri.

    http://satya-narayana.sulekha.com/bl...riya-state.htm

    This is the Direct Awareness of the Self, Graciously expounded to Guha by Ishvara Himself, The foremost and first Lord, now teaching this in Tamil
    Seated as the Self in my Heart.

    That Siva further says:

    Guha! I shall tell You about a different way to reach that Reality which pervades partless in all, too subtle, though, to be grasped (by the mind). [1]

    By which the knowledge of Awareness is well-attained, knowing which is to become Siva Himself, what has not been told to any by me, today, from me, that wisdom, hear! [2]

    Handed down by the lineage of gurus, and beyond the ken of logicians, this is for liberation from the bondage of the birth-death cycle. Its supreme vision shines at all places. [3]

    He who is the One pervading all things, He who has manifested as All, He who has faces in all directions, who is beyond thought, who remains Himself as all the verities and transcends them too, is the Self. [4]

    He transcends all verities, He is beyond the reach of speech, mind and name. I am That (Siva-Self): thus You should meditate with perfectly undifferentiated mind, on Siva. [5]

    Firmly established as the eternal entity, imperishable and undifferentiated, the all-pervasive, partless Knowledge that cannot be fathomed by the mind, it shines, with nothing prior to compare. [6]

    Without stain, indestructible, the totally serene, the knowledge transcending all objects, beyond the pale of thought, conception and doubt, that (Supreme) I am no doubt about this. [7]

    That Supreme divinity, Siva, indeed am I, of the nature of all the mantras, and transcending all the mantras, devoid of dissolution and creation. [8]

    What is visible, what is invisible, the moving and the stationary all these are pervaded by me. I am the Lord of this universe. All shine because of me. [9]

    Filled with a variety of forms, one different from the other, filled with a galaxy of worlds, all this universe, from Siva down to the earth, are all established in me. [10]

    Whatever is seen in this world, whatever is heard in this world, whatever shines, conceptualised as inside and outside, all these are pervaded by me, the all-pervading One. Realise this. [11]

    Though considering himself the Self, He desires to attain that Siva, the Supreme Self, as one apart. Whoever contemplates on Siva thus in delusion, will not attain Sivahood by such contemplation know this. [12]

    Siva is other than I; I am other than Siva uproot this attitude of differentiation. I indeed am that Siva this conviction that is non-dual, ever practice. [13]

    Full of this non-dual conviction, he who, everywhere, abides ever in the Self, shall see, in all things, in all bodies, only that Siva-self -- of this, there is no doubt. [14]

    Whoever has this conviction always, of the one Self, shall rid himself of delusion, and dual perception. That yogi will attain to omniscience so it is said in the Vedas. This You should know. [15]

    He who is praised in all scriptures as the unborn, the Ishvara, that formless and attributeless Self, He indeed am I there is no doubt about this. [16]

    Only he who does not know his true nature is the jiva that is subject to the dharmas (characteristic) of birth, death and so on. He who knows his true Self is one who is eternal, he is the pure, He is Siva. Without doubt, know this. [17]

    Hence, what men of discrimination should enquire carefully and directly realise is the Self; that itself shines twofold, as the transcendental and the inferior divisions, the gross and the subtle. [18]

    The Supreme nirvana is the higher, the inferior is manifest as the creation, mantras are spoken of as its gross form, what abides in changeless awareness is the subtle. [19]

    Shanmukha! Without realising It (Atma), what avails explanations thereof in endless ways? Tell me! All these are only a wonderful display of words, the cause for the delusion of the mind. [20]


    All the dharmas (qualities) abide in the Self. Whichever of them the jiva imagines, whereby he concentrates his thoughts again and again on it, he will attain that object there is no doubt of this. [21]

    Thus has been told by me as the knowledge of the Self what has been gathered succinctly in a condensed form. All, by any means, is of the nature of the Self. Realising this, may You ever be strengthened in the thoughts of the Self. [22]

    The Deities, the Vedas, the fire sacrifices, the various gifts to priests in the course of their performance none of this exists there (in the nature of the Self). Be tuned to the blemishless, omni-faceted, steadfast knowledge of the Self. [23]

    To the jiva drowning in the vast ocean of the birth-death cycle, and seeking a refuge, what affords refuge is only that knowledge of the Self, not anything else -- know this. [24]

    He who becomes of the nature of the Supreme and realises it as it really is, shall, though experiencing all changing states, attain liberation without effort be aware of this. [25]

    There is no greater blessing anywhere, apart from the gaining of the Self. Meditate ever on the Self. He, who is the Self, He indeed is the one all-pervasive Supreme Self be aware of this. [26]

    It is not the prana (the vital air that circulates), nor the apana (the air that travels down) even, nor the instruments superior even to these, the senses, mind and such. Reach ever for the thought of the Self.That is the omniscient and the perfect. [27]
    It is neither inside nor outside, not afar, nor nearby, nor does it fit in any place. That Supreme is formless, all pervasive and effulgent, direct Your thoughts ever to it. [28]
    It is across, above, and below, inside and outside, which are divisions, ever established firmly everywhere the void, the self-luminous Self. Ever mediate on that more and more. [29]

    Not a void, not a non-void, it is also the non-void, and the void, pervasive everywhere, but without predilections ever think of this Self. [30]

    Affliction-less, and without any support for itself, bereft of caste, name, and form that taintless, attributeless Self should You unceasingly meditate upon. [31]

    With no refuge, with nothing to support it, beyond the range of comprehension, without parallel, faultless by nature, the eternal the Self that is so, meditate upon it joyfully, forever. [32]


    Embracing dispassion and thus desisting from all karmic activity, shying away from society, one should, thereafter, ever meditate upon the Self within oneself, in oneself, by oneself be aware of this. [33]
    Country and lineage, the traditional castes and style of life, effacing various thoughts arising in the wake of these, the wise man should meditate daily, upon his (real) nature. [34]

    This is the mantra, this is the Deity, This is indeed what is called meditation, This indeed is tapas casting afar all such thoughts, concentrate on the nature of Your own Self. [35]

    The Self is without thought. Make it impossible for the thought-oriented (mind) to think at all. Make the mind that thinks, to get settled on the Self. Let not the mind think of anything else. [36]

    The Self is not something that can be thought of nor is it something that cannot be thought of. It is not thought itself, it is indeed itself thought what does not lean towards any of the above, the Supreme that is the Self, ever meditate upon it. [37]

    Meditate ever on that which is beyond the reach of the mind, allowing no refuge for the mind. The joy that is attained in abundance in that Self, that is beyond all verities and complete. [38]

    Without any differences, and beyond the reach of thinking, without any precedent, without anything similar, that which is the utmost frontier and extolled as the supreme bliss, be immersed in it. [39]

    Discarding all desire for objects, destroying the modes of the mind, the non-dual state of being the One, when the mind ceases to be, is the one called supreme bliss. [40]

    All directions, all places, all times are conducive for the yoga of the Self, so say the scriptures. Differences of castes and orders of life and such, cannot cause any differences in the least to the nature of knowledge. [41]

    The colour of milk is one, the colours of the cows many, so is the nature of knowledge, observe the wise ones. Beings of various marks and attributes, are like the cows, their realisation is the same; this is an example we should know. [42]

    Brahman intimately pervades all, it shines with faces in all directions. Established in it without a pause, think not of differences such as regions and directions. [43]

    In this world itself, there is no mark, lifestyle, or tradition, for the one who becomes of the nature of the Self. He has nothing to gain by any action of his; no action need he perform, nor any injunctions prescribing actions apply to him know this. [44]


    Moving or standing or sleeping, waking or taking food or water, in the face of the wind, the cold and the sun, unaffected will he be, in any state, at any time. [45]

    Fear, indigence, sickness, burning fever, indigestion even when all these affect, one established in the Self, peaceful and shining full, He is never at his wits end on any count; he will savour the satisfaction of the Self. [46]

    Whether going forward or returning, I am not the one that moves forward or back. When enquired into there is no going or coming. In the ever changing dharma of Prakrti, the cause of illusive creation, I never was immersed, nor am I now. [47]

    All activities prescribed are the work of Prakrti, the illusion. Prakrti, so spoken of, is the source of all action. I am the immaculate, I am the actionless, thus indeed will reflect the wise man, the knower of truth. [48]

    For him there is no bondage of Prakrti, the delusion. He has earned the name of the liberated one. He shall never be touched by the defects spoken of as the action of Prakrti. [49]

    The manner in which a lamp shines, destroying darkness with its light in like manner, by destroying the enveloping darkness, arising from inexplicable ignorance, the Self, of the nature of the pure light of knowledge shines. [50]

    Even as the lamp, with the fuel of ghee spent, attains nirvana (peace), the yogi, continuously contemplating on the Truth of the Self, will be at peace in the Self. Nothing greater is there to be attained than the Self this is the truth. [51]

    When the pot is carried, the space within the pot, though conceived of as carried: is it not the pot only that is carried? The Self too, like space, remains motionless. [52]

    When the pot breaks, the space in the pot merges one with the great Space. When the inert body passes away, the Self, seemingly in the body, becomes immediately one with the Supreme Self. [53]

    Thus, the Lord who is omniscient spoke with authority then: One who is liberated, severed from all bondage, becomes all pervasive, endless, with absolute Awareness. [54]

    Discarding totally all the Agamas, attaining the pure samadhi of Atma yoga, realising, by due enquiry, there is nothing else greater than this, destroy all wrong ideas, in the mind, of differences. [55]

    Meditating continuously on the great Knowledge thus, that yogi who attains ever the bodiless nature, that pure jnani whose dharma is the dharma of That (bodiless nature) alone, is the liberated one, shining inside and out, reaching across to every place. [56]


    Omniscience and bliss, and mature wisdom, remaining independent, limitless strength attaining all these, he shines ever, the Self without afflictions. With an immaculate body, he, as the Self, merges in Siva. [57]

    Japa of the name, worship, bathing in holy waters, ritual sacrifices, none of these or others are needed. The fruits of dharma and adharma, water oblations to forefathers, none of these are for him. [58]

    No injunctions for observance, no fasts, nothing required by way of getting into or out of (any action), no vows of celibacy for him, know this. [59]

    Not having any recourse to falling into the fire or water, or falling from the mountain top, enjoy the feast of the Knowledge of Siva, eternal and pure. Rid of the rules applying to all creation, move about as You please. [60]

    I tell You this is the Truth, the Truth, the Truth, thrice over. There is nothing greater than this, nothing greater is there to be known, nothing at all, nowhere ever. [61]

    Rid of any blemish, rid of ignorance, with pure intellect, being the pure Self, by the pure conviction that all that is seen is pure, meditating on the immaculate nature, he shall attain Awareness. [62]


    Aum Namah Shivayah

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