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    How did God manifest the universe?

    Namaste,

    So according to the scriptures of Sanatana Dharma how did God or mother Goddess create the universe? Does the scriptures conincide with the Big Bang theory (Such as Siva Shakti). Also are some of the stories about the creation metaphoric in the sense just like Siva-Shakti is metaphoric of the potential energy. Sort of how the Taoist say that everything has Resonance or potential energy that is affected by causes which are simultaneious and cause all this quote unquote reality around us.

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    Namaste,

    nevermind i found some material. Check this out http://hindu-texts.suite101.com/arti..._the_riga_veda

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    Hindu Concept of Creation of the Universe
    The Hindu tradition perceives the existence of cyclical nature of the universe and everything within it. The cosmos follows one cycle within a framework of cycles. It may have been created and reach an end, but it represents only one turn in the perpetual "wheel of time", which revolves infinitely through successive cycles of creation and destruction. Within this cycle of creation and destruction of the universe, the soul (atman) also undergoes its own version of cycle called samsara, the cycle of rebirth in which individual souls are repeatedly reincarnated.
    In the beginning there was neither existence nor non- existence; there was no atmosphere, no sky, and no realm beyond the sky. What power was there? Where was that power? Who was that power? Was it finite or infinite?
    There was neither death nor immortality. There was nothing to distinguish night from day. There was no wind or breath. God alone breathed by his own energy. Other than God there was nothing.
    In the beginning darkness was swathed in darkness. All was liquid and formless. God was clothed in emptiness.

    Then fire arose within God; and in the fire arose love. This was the seed of the soul. Sages have found this seed within their hearts; they have discovered that it is the bond between existence and non-existence.
    Who really knows what happened? Who can describe it? How were things produced? Where was creation born? When the universe was created, the one became many. Who knows how this occurred?
    Did creation happen at God's command, or did it happen without his command? He looks down upon creation from the highest heaven. Only he knows the answer -or perhaps he does not know.

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    Those who deny God, deny themselves. Those who affirm God, affirm themselves.
    God said: 'Let me multiply! Let me have offspring! ' So he heated himself up; and when he was hot, he emitted the entire world, and all that it contains.
    And after emitting the world, he entered it. He who has no body, assumed many bodies. He who is infinite, became finite. He who is everywhere, went to particular places. He who is totally wise, caused ignorance. He who sees all truth, caused delusion. God becomes every being, and gives reality to every being.
    Before the world was created, God existed, but was invisible. By means of the soul all living beings can know God; and this knowledge fills them with joy. The soul is the source of abiding joy. When we discover the soul in the depths of our consciousness, we are overwhelmed with delight. If the soul did not live within us, then we should not breathe -we should not live.
    The soul is one. The soul is changeless, nameless, and formless. Until we understand the soul, we live in fear. Scholars may study the soul through words; but unless they know the soul within themselves, their scholarship merely emphasizes their ignorance, and increases their fear.

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    Re: How did God manifest the universe?

    http://www.hindu-blog.com/2008/04/hi...ry-cosmic.html This is my favorite depiction and explanation of the manifestation of the Universe. ENJOY!

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    Namaste SS,
    In case you are interested in learning more about this process, there is a Sloka which is present in all the four Vedas. this is called as the Purusha Sukta.
    This describes in great details as to how the Universe was manifested by the Parama Purusha(Paramatma).
    the detailed explanation of the sloka is in this link.
    http://www.ramanuja.org/purusha/sukta-intro.html
    hope this helps,
    mukunda

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    Namaste,

    This is a great read mukunda. The scripture gets a bit intense for me, I am glad they had commentary on it otherwise id be lost.

    OM
    -juan

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    “If matter were accepted as the original cause of creation, all the authorized scriptures in the world would be useless, for in every scripture, especially the Vedic scriptures like the Manu-smriti, the Supreme Personality of Godhead is said to be the ultimate creator. The Manu-smriti is considered the highest Vedic direction to humanity. Manu is the giver of law to mankind, and in the Manu-smriti it is clearly stated that before the creation the entire universal space was darkness, without information and without variety, and was in a state of complete suspension, like a dream. Everything was darkness.

    The Supreme Personality of Godhead then entered the universal space, and although He is invisible, He created the visible cosmic manifestation. In the material world the Supreme Personality of Godhead is not manifested by His personal presence, but the presence of the cosmic manifestation in different varieties is the proof that everything has been created under His direction. He entered the universe with all creative potencies, and thus He removed the darkness of the unlimited space.

    “The form of the Supreme Personality of Godhead is described to be transcendental, very subtle, eternal, all-pervading, inconceivable and therefore nonmanifested to the material senses of a conditioned living creature. He desired to expand Himself into many living entities, and with such a desire He first created a vast expanse of water within the universal space and then impregnated that water with living entities. By that process of impregnation a massive body appeared, blazing like a thousand suns, and in that body was the first creative principle, Brahma. The great Parashara Rishi has confirmed this in the Vishnu Purana. He says that the cosmic manifestation visible to us is produced from Lord Vishnu and sustained under His protection. He is the principal maintainer and destroyer of the universal form.

    “This cosmic manifestation is one of the diverse energies of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. As a spider secretes saliva and weaves a web by its own movements but at the end winds up the web within its body, so Lord Vishnu produces this cosmic manifestation from His transcendental body and at the end winds it up within Himself. All the great sages of the Vedic understanding have accepted that the Supreme Personality of Godhead is the original creator.

    “It is sometimes claimed that the impersonal speculations of great philosophers are meant for the advancement of knowledge without religious ritualistic principles. But the religious ritualistic principles are actually meant for the advancement of spiritual knowledge.

    By performance of religious rituals one ultimately reaches the supreme goal of knowledge by understanding that Vasudeva, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, is the cause of everything. It is clearly stated in the Bhagavad-gita that even those who are advocates of knowledge alone, without any religious ritualistic processes, advance in knowledge after many, many lifetimes of speculation and thus come to the conclusion that Vasudeva is the supreme cause of everything that be.

    As a result of this achievement of the goal of life, such an advanced learned scholar or philosopher surrenders unto the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Religious ritualistic performances are actually meant to cleanse the contaminated mind in the material world, and the special feature of this Age of Kali is that one can easily execute the process of cleansing the mind of contamination by chanting the holy names of God—Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare/ Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare.

    “A Vedic injunction states, sarve veda yat padam amananti (Kaöha Up. 1.2.15): all Vedic knowledge is searching after the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Similarly, another Vedic injunction states, narayana-para vedah, the Vedas are meant for understanding Narayana, the Supreme Lord.

    Similarly, the Bhagavad-gita also confirms, vedaish ca sarvair aham eva vedyah [Bg. 15.15] by all the Vedas, Krishna is to be known. Therefore, the main purpose of understanding the Vedas, performing Vedic sacrifices and speculating on the Vedanta-sutra is to understand Krishna.

    Accepting the impersonalist view of voidness or the nonexistence of the Supreme Personality of Godhead negates all study of the Vedas. Impersonal speculation aims at disproving the conclusion of the Vedas. Therefore any impersonal speculative presentation should be understood to be against the principles of the Vedas, or standard scriptures. Since the speculation of the impersonalists does not follow the principles of the Vedas, their conclusion must be considered to be against the Vedic principles. Anything not supported by the Vedic principles must be considered imaginary and lacking in standard proof. Therefore no impersonalist explanation of any Vedic literature can be accepted.

    “If one tries to nullify the conclusions of the Vedas by accepting an unauthorized scripture or so-called scripture, it will be very hard for him to come to the right conclusion about the Absolute Truth. The system for adjusting two contradictory scriptures is to refer to the Vedas, for references from the Vedas are accepted as final judgments. When we refer to a particular scripture, it must be authorized, and for this authority it must strictly follow the Vedic injunctions.

    If someone presents an alternative doctrine he himself has manufactured, that doctrine will prove itself useless, for any doctrine that tries to prove that Vedic evidence is meaningless immediately proves itself meaningless. The followers of the Vedas unanimously accept the authority of Manu and Parashara in the disciplic succession.

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    Re: How did God manifest the universe?

    namaskar,

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaktajan View Post
    “If matter were accepted as the original cause of creation, all the authorized scriptures in the world would be useless, for in every scripture, especially the Vedic scriptures like the Manu-smriti, the Supreme Personality of Godhead is said to be the ultimate creator. The Manu-smriti is considered the highest Vedic direction to humanity.
    Sorry, don't mean to derail this thread but who considers that manu smriti is the highest vedic direction to humanity?

    Only shruti is the highest and smriti is lower in classification, at least that's my understanding. manu smriti is not the highest as it is smriti text.
    satay

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    Do you not mean to say, 'Who DOES NOT considers that manu smriti is the highest vedic direction to humanity?'

    Who DOES NOT?

    I know that the Indian Sub-Continent has had repeated 'Brain-Drains' during the last 30 centuries.

    I presume that you, satay, read all your Max Mullers's/Book Store/University Professor's/Your Guru's personal Library's stock of Vedic sastra ---and still you are searching for how best to serve "HUMANITY".

    The needs of "HUMANITY" require us not to be misers (grha-medhi).

    Stop being a miser (grha-medhi) and at least understand that for common people: the best Vedic Teaching tool for the MAJORITY of HUMANITY is repeated viewing og the 94 Hour long MAHABHARATA by B.R. Chopra.

    Why? Because then, all circumstances of the 'Human-Condition' are addresed ---and even those who neglect the cryptic texts of the non-sequitor filled Shruti ---will come to know the highest truths by the grace of Vedic Civilisation's past experiences.

    Those who claim to know sastra from the Shruti are playing the roll of an Intellectual without knowing the purpose behind the stakes of pursuing moksha.

    Q. Which book is known as the "Law Book for Mankind" in the Vedic canon?
    A. MAnu-Samhita.

    Q. What is the name of that Manu?
    A. Svayambhuva-Manu ---Husband of Satarupa ---Father of Srimatis Akuti, Devahuti and Prasuti ---Father of Srimans Uttanapada and Priyavrata ---son of Lord Brahma.

    These persons consider that manu smriti is the highest vedic direction to humanity, amongst others.

    Don't be fooled by yet another translation done by those who speak Shakespeare's Language better then you do.

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