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    shankaracharya was a vaishnav in disguise

    as per jagadguru kripalu ji maharaj he was a rasika
    look at what he says


    kAmyopAsana yArthayanty anudinaM kincit phalaM svepsitam,
    kecit svargam athApavargam apare yogAdi yajnAdibhiH,
    asmAkaM yadunandanAMghri yugala dhyAnAvadhAnArthinAm,
    kiM lokena damena kiM nRpatinA svargApavargaizca kiM?


    Those who perform righteous actions with the selfish desire for the attainment of heaven may do so.Those who desire liberation via the path of jnana or yoga may pursue that goal,but i want nothing of these two paths.i wish to engross myself in the nectar of shri krishna's lotus feet.I do not desire wordly or heavenly pleasures,not do i desire liberation.I am a rasika who relishes the bliss of divine love.


    prabodha sudakam
    Prem ras siddhant by kripalu maharaj

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    Re: shankaracharya was a vaishnav in disguise

    Quote Originally Posted by SANT View Post
    as per jagadguru kripalu ji maharaj he was a rasika
    look at what he says


    kAmyopAsana yArthayanty anudinaM kincit phalaM svepsitam,
    kecit svargam athApavargam apare yogAdi yajnAdibhiH,
    asmAkaM yadunandanAMghri yugala dhyAnAvadhAnArthinAm,
    kiM lokena damena kiM nRpatinA svargApavargaizca kiM?


    Those who perform righteous actions with the selfish desire for the attainment of heaven may do so.Those who desire liberation via the path of jnana or yoga may pursue that goal,but i want nothing of these two paths.i wish to engross myself in the nectar of shri krishna's lotus feet.I do not desire wordly or heavenly pleasures,not do i desire liberation.I am a rasika who relishes the bliss of divine love.


    prabodha sudakam
    Prem ras siddhant by kripalu maharaj
    Namaste bandhu,

    But actually Shankara sung "Shivo hum".

    Vishnu is Vibhu -- all pervading, omnipresent. Human minds limit themselves within categories. But true spiritualists who have the infinite Vibhu as the only goal are all vaisnavas. They are saivas also, since will all pervading Vibhu be of any use if it was not auspicious?

    Om Namah Shivaya
    That which is without letters (parts) is the Fourth, beyond apprehension through ordinary means, the cessation of the phenomenal world, the auspicious and the non-dual. Thus Om is certainly the Self. He who knows thus enters the Self by the Self.

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    Re: shankaracharya was a vaishnav in disguise

    Quote Originally Posted by SANT View Post
    as per jagadguru kripalu ji maharaj he was a rasika
    look at what he says


    kAmyopAsana yArthayanty anudinaM kincit phalaM svepsitam,
    kecit svargam athApavargam apare yogAdi yajnAdibhiH,
    asmAkaM yadunandanAMghri yugala dhyAnAvadhAnArthinAm,
    kiM lokena damena kiM nRpatinA svargApavargaizca kiM?


    Those who perform righteous actions with the selfish desire for the attainment of heaven may do so.Those who desire liberation via the path of jnana or yoga may pursue that goal,but i want nothing of these two paths.i wish to engross myself in the nectar of shri krishna's lotus feet.I do not desire wordly or heavenly pleasures,not do i desire liberation.I am a rasika who relishes the bliss of divine love.


    prabodha sudakam
    Prem ras siddhant by kripalu maharaj
    Namaste sant,

    With all respects to Kripalu ji, I ask, whether he has taught what "I am" is? Some may feel that knowing "I am" is not essential But Shri Krishna has taught so:

    13.12 Adhyaatma jnaana nityatwam tattwa jnaanaartha darshanam;
    Etajjnaanamiti proktam ajnaanam yadato’nyathaa.


    13.13 Jneyam yattat pravakshyaami yajjnaatwaa’mritamashnute;
    Anaadimatparam brahma na sattannaasaduchyate.

    Om
    That which is without letters (parts) is the Fourth, beyond apprehension through ordinary means, the cessation of the phenomenal world, the auspicious and the non-dual. Thus Om is certainly the Self. He who knows thus enters the Self by the Self.

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    Re: shankaracharya was a vaishnav in disguise

    namaskar,

    Quote Originally Posted by atanu View Post
    Namaste bandhu,

    But actually Shankara sung "Shivo hum".

    Om Namah Shivaya
    and also Baj Govind. Actually, if you listen to the lectures of some of the advaitin Indian scholars on Hindu studies at the Oxford site, they are not shy to say that Sankaracarya gave as much importance to bhakti as he did to Gyana. He seemed to have said that Bhakti is an essential part for liberation as it prepares the mind.

    So saying that he sang 'shivo hum' I am not sure what you are implying. Are you implying that he advocated shiva as supreme? That might be a post sankara view.
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    Re: shankaracharya was a vaishnav in disguise

    Namaskar,


    Quote Originally Posted by atanu View Post
    Namaste sant,

    With all respects to Kripalu ji, I ask, whether he has taught what "I am" is? Some may feel that knowing "I am" is not essential But Shri Krishna has taught so:
    Om
    What does this have to do with the topic of the thread in this vaisnava forum? Kripalu is a vaisnava. Are you expecting him to teach advaita vedanta?
    satay

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    Re: shankaracharya was a vaishnav in disguise

    Quote Originally Posted by satay View Post
    namaskar,

    and also Baj Govind. Actually, if you listen to the lectures of some of the advaitin Indian scholars on Hindu studies at the Oxford site, they are not shy to say that Sankaracarya gave as much importance to bhakti as he did to Gyana. He seemed to have said that Bhakti is an essential part for liberation as it prepares the mind.

    So saying that he sang 'shivo hum' I am not sure what you are implying. Are you implying that he advocated shiva as supreme? That might be a post sankara view.
    I placed my view that Vishnu is not Vishnu if not Shiva, and Shiva will not be Shiva if not Vishnu.

    Vishnu is Vibhu -- all pervading, omnipresent. Human minds limit themselves within categories. But true spiritualists who have the infinite Vibhu as the only goal are all vaisnavas. They are saivas also, since will all pervading Vibhu be of any use if it was not auspicious?



    Om
    That which is without letters (parts) is the Fourth, beyond apprehension through ordinary means, the cessation of the phenomenal world, the auspicious and the non-dual. Thus Om is certainly the Self. He who knows thus enters the Self by the Self.

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    Re: shankaracharya was a vaishnav in disguise

    Quote Originally Posted by satay View Post
    Namaskar,

    What does this have to do with the topic of the thread in this vaisnava forum? Kripalu is a vaisnava. Are you expecting him to teach advaita vedanta?
    Namaste satay,

    I personally feel that Adhyaatma jnaana is not preserve of Advaitins. But if you feel it improper the post may please be deleted.

    Om
    That which is without letters (parts) is the Fourth, beyond apprehension through ordinary means, the cessation of the phenomenal world, the auspicious and the non-dual. Thus Om is certainly the Self. He who knows thus enters the Self by the Self.

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    Re: shankaracharya was a vaishnav in disguise

    namaskar,


    Quote Originally Posted by atanu View Post
    Namaste satay,

    I personally feel that Adhyaatma jnaana is not preserve of Advaitins. But if you feel it improper the post may please be deleted.

    Om
    I will leave the post in. I just felt that it is odd for one to expect a vaisnava teach 'self' gyan. Since bhakti (of vishnu) is the only means for liberation for this worldview.
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    Re: shankaracharya was a vaishnav in disguise

    can someone please tell me the idea of liberation according to vaishnavas/dvaitas?
    Sarva DharmAAn Parityajya

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    Re: shankaracharya was a vaishnav in disguise

    yamunA nikaTa taTa sthita
    vrindAvana kAnane mahAramye

    kalpa druma talabhUmau
    caraNaM caraNopari sthApya

    tishTaMtaM ghana nIlaM
    sva tejasA bhAsayanta miha vizvaM

    pItAmbara paridhAnaM
    candana karpUra lipta sarvAGgam


    Visualize Lord Krishna standing with
    one leg crossed over the other,
    under the wish-yielding Kalpa. tree,
    in a most beautiful flowery bower in Vrindavana,
    situated near the banks of the river Yamuna.

    His complexion as a dark rain-ladden cloud,
    illuminates the whole world with its Luster.
    He is dressed in yellow silk garments and
    all parts of His transcendental body are anointed
    with the paste of sandalwood and camphor.


    Akarna pUrna netraM
    kuNDala yuga maNDita zravaNaM

    manda smita mukha kamalaM
    sa kaustubhO dAra maNi hAraM

    valayAGgulIya kAdyA nujjvala yantaM svalankArAn
    gala vilulita vana mAlaM sva tejasApAsta kali kAlaM


    His large captivating eyes seem to reach almost to
    His ears which are adorned with glittering earrings.

    A sweet, gentle, enchanting smile blooms
    from His lotus face. He is wearing jewelery
    made of precious stones, pearls and
    the celestial jem, Kaustubha.

    The radiance of His transcendental body
    enhances the splendour of the golden bracelets, rings
    and the other ornaments present on Him.

    Around His neck, the vanamala garland
    made of five heavenly fragrant flowers,
    is gently swaying to and fro.
    His very brilliance and beauty drives away
    the sinful effects of the dark age of Kali.


    gunjAravAli kalitaM
    gunjA puGjAnvite zirasi

    bhuGjAnaM saha gopaiH
    kunjAn tar vartinaM hariM smarata

    mandAra puSpa vAsita
    mandAnila sevita parAnandaM

    mandAkinI yuta padaM namata
    mahAnanda daM mahA puruSaM


    The curly locks of His dark hair surrounded by
    the vines and fragrant flowers of the divine bower,
    are attracting the intoxicated, noisy, bumble bees.

    Fondly remember and contemplate upon Lord Hari
    Who is frolicking in the bower along with His
    cowherd playmates and eating His midday meal joyfully.

    Offering worship and prayers, meditate upon
    that Supreme Personality, Sri Krishna,
    the Bestower of the highest Bliss!

    He is fanned by the gentle breeze, scented with
    the fragrance of heavenly 'mandAra' flowers,
    and His lotus feet are attended by
    the sacred celestial river, Ganges.


    surabhIkRta digvalayaM
    surabhi zatair AvritaH paritaH

    surabhIti kSapaNa mahA
    sura bhImaM yAdavaM namata


    His Divine fragrance pervades all around
    as He is encircled by hundreds of blessed cows
    who are attracted by His captivating beauty and
    soul-stirring ethereal music pouring from His flute.

    Let us offer our humble obeisance to beloved Lord,
    Sri Krishna, the Descendent of Yadu dynasty,
    Who even drives away the fears of heavenly gods
    by terrifying and conquering the demoniac forces
    with His supreme valor.




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