myths and facts about advaita

[kd gupta]

its about time that ISKCON should realize their nature of being intolerant and setting up a commercial enterprise in the name of krishna bhakti.ISKCON should be considered as a private organisation which has nothin to do with vedas or sanatana dharma.

WONDERFUL..PL. listen to the bhajan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAxMzsu9wmY

[Mohini Shakti Devi]

surely you agree that Duryodhana was not a vaishnava nor an equivilant member of the Society for Krishna Consciouness, yes?

Duryodhana was a righteous aryaputra and he knew what was what, so was he an advaitist?

[atanu]

Hindu scriptures teach that the Advaita Lord must be known. It is fultile to argue without knowing oneself, since the inner most self is Lord. Advaita is touched by everyone during sleep, swoon, and in samadhi. But in samadhi alone the Advaita is known. Some senior members say that Advaita is not practical. On the contrary, the ultimate ananda and freedom is available only on experience of the Advaita, which can come only after experiencing Ghanashayam. Only after experiencing Ghanashaym as unbroken awareness and bliss, one can go to that which is unborn.

Some one has said "mayavada sunile sarvanash". First, advaita is not mayavada and second, if this person feels that advaita is mayvada then his sarvanash has already been done, since one cannot argue without first hearing. Sunile argue kara jai. One can only argue after hearing.

School children who have been told of Newton's law, dealing with behaviour of discrete masses, obviously feel disoriented when they further learn of probability fields that have no discreteness. Now Newton's laws cannot explain the bending of light by gravity but Einstein's law can and it can also explain the behaviour of discrete particles.

Om Namah Shivaya

[devotee]

Namaste Atanu,

Welcome back to the forum ! I really missed you !! I hope everything is fine with God's infinite grace on you & your family.

OM

[kd gupta]

Hindu scriptures teach that the Advaita Lord must be known. It is fultile to argue without knowing oneself, since the inner most self is Lord. Advaita is touched by everyone during sleep, swoon, and in samadhi. But in samadhi alone the Advaita is known. Some senior members say that Advaita is not practical. On the contrary, the ultimate ananda and freedom is available only on experience of the Advaita, which can come only after experiencing Ghanashayam. Only after experiencing Ghanashaym as unbroken awareness and bliss, one can go to that which is unborn.

Some one has said "mayavada sunile sarvanash". First, advaita is not mayavada and second, if this person feels that advaita is mayvada then his sarvanash has already been done, since one cannot argue without first hearing. Sunile argue kara jai. One can only argue after hearing.

School children who have been told of Newton's law, dealing with behaviour of discrete masses, obviously feel disoriented when they further learn of probability fields that have no discreteness. Now Newton's laws cannot explain the bending of light by gravity but Einstein's law can and it can also explain the behaviour of discrete particles.

Om Namah Shivaya

Namaste Atanuji , I could not get exactly, pl. explain..

[atanu]

Namaste Atanuji , I could not get exactly, pl. explain..

Namaste Guptaji,

Maha U.

tadbrahmaanandamadvandva.n nirguNa.n satyachidghanam.h .
viditvaa svaatmano ruupa.n na bibheti kadaachana .. 70..

paraatpara.n yanmahato mahaantaM
svaruupatejomayashaashvata.n shivam.h .
kaviM puraaNaM purushha.n sanaatanaM
sarveshvara.n sarvadevairupaasyam.h .. 71..

IV-70-71. One fears never (and from nothing) on knowing the Self as Bliss unequalled, attributeless and one mass of truth and consciousness. That is beyond all that is beyond, greater than the greatest, lustrous and eternal in nature, wise, ancient Auspicious Being worshipped by all gods.

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First. It is useful to personalize God but not at the cost of forgetting His form of infinite-unbroken-undelineated satyachidghanam (known, IMO, mystically, as ghanashyam, who indeed teaches that He acquires form in association with mAyA but actually is unborn Mahesvara in truth). So, in minds infected with strongly embedded apriori notion of Shiva and Ghanashyam being two individuals, the simple truth may fail to register. What is unborm shivo turya is also the pragnyaghana sarvesvara from which all emanate. Vishnu is known as self born in the Vedas.

Second. Some people argue that such and such God is sarvottama. No doubt God is so, but that idea, IMO, has a limited purpose of steadying the devotion. God is paraatpara, beyond comparison and not merely sarvottam, which remains amenable to comparison.

To know the pragnyaghana, the revealed consciousness of the ever unborn Self, is a step forward to knowing the Self - the final goal. This step is plainly in the domain of Advaita, since satyachidghanam is undelineated, infinite and formless.

ghanam means unbroken and homogeneous -- dense homogeneous mass of existence-knowledge-bliss.

Om Namah Shivaya

[Eastern Mind]

Namaste Atanu,

Welcome back to the forum ! I really missed you !! I hope everything is fine with God's infinite grace on you & your family.

OM

I second that. Aum Namasivaya

[Krsna Das]

Dandavat Pranamas, Atanu Ji

Hindu scriptures teach that the Advaita Lord must be known. It is fultile to argue without knowing oneself, since the inner most self is Lord.

"...since the inner most self is Lord..."

- So do you mean to say that our real identity is the Lord itself, and we do not have seperate identity from the Lord?...

Some one has said "mayavada sunile sarvanash".
First, advaita is not mayavada.

That some-one is myself only. I am curious to know in what way is Mayavad different from Advaita - that will be an information for me.

Hare Krsna!

[Mohini Shakti Devi]

Where in the Vedas is the sanskrit compond word A-DVAITA
to be found?

[Mohini Shakti Devi]

Can not western Philosophers conclude that the self-centered goal of advaita, when not followed by a bonefide acarya, lead to meglomania?