Re: LORd SIVA : A Gaudiya Vaisnava Perspective

[Omkara]

Do you really think that the verses composed by Vyasadeva and gathered by Jiva Goswami were intended to deceive?

No, what is being said is that Jiva Goswamin's interpretation of those verses is wrong.

[Necromancer]

Hari Om.

All I have to say about this, is that I'll be happy when I can finally understand what a 'Demigod' is.

That's Lord Siva from a Vaisnava Perspective.

Aum Namah Shivaya

[Necromancer]

Living as a Shaiva in an ISKCON Temple is very difficult. Especially when you confide in a few close friends, who thereafter will try and 'convert' you from that point on.

I never tried it on with them, but then again, I was 'outnumbered'. This is where I first heard words like 'demigod' and 'shetan'. Still, it made me at least try and overcome my annoyance by seeing Lord Shiva in Lord Vishnu and vice-versa instead of getting angry with them.

In the end, I fell for Lord Keshava and realised I had a weird 'snake thing' going on. Seriously though, in many ways the two images both symbolically AND representationally are almost identical. I started to focus on what was 'the same' and realised in the end that everything was.

I never really got into the whole 'Krishna Leela' thing, but I was very interested in stories from the Mahabharata and Ramayana and I had a soft-spot for Lord Rama - Lord Shiva's greatest devotee - (Ravana deserved it for his insolence)..so, everybody 'tolerated' me....anyway, I am digressing here, but now you can see why I say it.

Aum Namo Narayanaya.

[Omkara]

Hari Om.

All I have to say about this, is that I'll be happy when I can finally understand what a 'Demigod' is.

That's Lord Siva from a Vaisnava Perspective.

Aum Namah Shivaya

Prabhupada's use of the word 'demigod' for deva is an unfortunate choice of words.

[Omkara]

Especially when you confide in a few close friends, who thereafter will try and 'convert' you from that point on.

I wonder why ISKCONites try so hard to proselytize.

[brahma jijnasa]

Other Vaishnava sects consider this to be an arthavada.

That the scriptures wanted to say that this is arthavada, then they would have said so, "Now we'll say one arthavada" but they don't. Gaudiyas would accept this scriptural statement as it is.

In any case, "Rama" as a name of Lord Vishnu does not refer to the avatar Rama but rather that Lord Vishnu posesses the qualities refferd to by the name Rama.

This form of Lord Vishnu who possesses the qualities refferd to by the name Rama indeed is Lord Rama.

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No, what is being said is that Jiva Goswamin's interpretation of those verses is wrong.

No, see his post, he says that there are verses in the scriptures about Lord Krishna with the purpose to mislead. He even mentioned that the Buddha was an incarnation of Lord Vishnu who descends to deceive.


regards

[Jogesh]

brahma jijnasa,

please use a larger font..this is silly

[brahma jijnasa]

That is not true, Sri Chaitanya forbade ...

We can see that Gaudiya Vaishnavas quoted from various Puranas in their writings. They even quoted from those that are considered tamasic.


regards

[philosoraptor]

That is not true, Sri Chaitanya forbade Sri Advaita Acarya from reading and teaching Yoga Vasistha of Valmiki when he came to know about it.

(I encourage you to read between the lines on that one )

Pranams,

This is news to me. Why did he forbid its teaching? Do you have the location of any quotes in which this is explained?

[Jogesh]

We can see that Gaudiya Vaishnavas quoted from various Puranas in their writings. They even quoted from those that are considered tamasic.


regards

Yoga Vasistha is not Tamasic or a Purana...