Re: A Realization : Saguna and Nirguna Brahman
Originally Posted by
atanu
I prefer two very simple logic. First, if the Truth is one, then what that Truth (you as Atman) imagines of a second entity (the world or Ishwara) can only be an imagination. It is imagination by the True of a non-existent entity. Thus Shri Krishna is Sat and Asat. Second, if the scripture asks us to know the Truth of Advaita Atman, then the knowing cannot involve knowing of a knower and another known. Scripture has very skillfully used the word "Advaita Atman". Knowing Advaita Atman cannot lead to knowing of another Atman.
It is for you to stay fixed or to explore with genuine openness.
My Regards
Om Namah Shivaya
Namaste Atanuji
I-the-mind understand, but did you-the-mind not say that AtmAn never imagines or dreams ? So i-the-mind said perhaps "Ishwar dreams up jivas and jagat" is more accurate than saying "Brahman dreams". Unless you mean 'vijn~yana Brahman'.
Now, AtmAn that I AM, chooses to be "WE ARE" and stay "WE ARE".
"We Are" as "Him and (insignificant)me"
This is where WE choose to draw the line, whether it is considered NirguNa , SaguNa , both, or neither sat nor asat.
Sant GorA KumbhAr sang in praise of PAnduranga Vitthal "NirguNAchA sanga dharilA jo Avadi kar katAvari theuniyA...." I do not have the exact words.
In short he calls PAnduranga (KRSNa) NirguNa.
So the gateway to the same NirguNa takes different forms - KRSNa, Shiva, Devi etc. To each , KRSNa Himself is the AtmAn and NirguNA Infinite or Shiva Himself is that NirguNa Infinite. They are not simply the outward peacock feather & flute OR jatA mukut & Crescent moon, etc.
I am sure you agree with that.
If you say this is saguNa or vyAvahAric , that's fine with me "We are saguNa-nirguNa"
praNAm
Jai Shri KRSNa
Last edited by smaranam; 29 March 2010 at 06:07 PM.
Reason: Gora Kumbhar
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