Re: How can the Creator be part of His creation?
Namaste Ramkrishna,
The Hindu philosophy has many layers. The highest philosophy, the ultimate Truth, propounded by Hindus and also realised/experienced by them is :
a) That there was never a creation
b) That Creator and the Creation are not different
c) Everything is One alone, apparently seen as many, is a highly intelligent system which is neither being nor not-being & it has four states of existence. This whole universe is just one face of the Reality ... it is one of the states & is called Waking state.
However, your friend many not digest this very high level of Truth. So, for him this philosophy is not advocated but I said it here & you may also tell him just to give an idea that Hinduism is not as simplistic as it seems from outside.
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Christianity says that this world was created by God. Genesis tells us that there was God alone to begin with. In fact, if God is really the creator of everything then there cannot exist anything except God unless the same is created by Him. If that is true then how did God create .... what material did he use to create ... where from did he get that material .... where did he get the dirt for the creation ... ? There is only one possibility that He Himself became the creation otherwise there will be creation of something out of nothing which is ridiculous. God cannot have even space around to start his creation activities as space too must have to be created by him.
So, the material to be used by Him must come only from God as there was nothing else available in the beginning. The space where this creation took place by using God as raw-material for creation must also be within God as there can't be any concept of "outside God" before creation. So, logically there is only one possibility that the creation is thoroughly within God and created by using raw material which was essentially God.
If we assume that God is just like a Human being in size and expanse as Christians believe, then can such a being create something as huge as this universe .... which is so huge that even one galaxy is not more than a point in the whole system ? These are very childish depictions of God. God existed even when there was no human being. The human being came on this earth too late ... billion of years after the Sun was born. Even the Earth came too late. Was there no God before ? Does it prove that God created this world including human beings as fast it is stated in the Christian Bible ? How does it explain the Charles Darwin's theory of evolution ? How does the Bible explain the existence of Dinosaurs when there was no man ? Why doesn't God talk about those in the Bible, if the Bible is the final word of God ? If the whole of this creation is destroyed by any fateful event, will the God survive ?
This creation theory is there in Hinduism too and is in other religions too. But these simplistic theories are for less intelligent people ... to give them a simple & easily understandable theory which can guide them to the right path. Bible also does the same thing. It is like limiting the teaching to "Light travels in a straight line" & "Light is a form of energy" to a student of elementary class without telling him the Truth that light is actually a form of electromagnetic wave which doesn't always move in straight line and that it has a nature of a wave and also of particles. Or like telling primary level students that mass always remains constant ... not disclosing to them that the mass can be converted into energy ... etc. etc. This is important ... very important that the Truth must not be told to each and everyone without assessing his/her capability to digest the Truth otherwise there would be more harm than good. That is why Hinduism has many philosophies within it suiting different types of people. The other religions don't have some much to offer ... there is just one size of clothing for everyone ... take it or leave it.
If he has difficulty in accepting "avataars" within Hinduism, how can he accept that Jesus was God ? How can he believe that God has a son like we humans have ... did He (God) have sex with a woman to produce this child ?? .... if not, and He created Jesus like he created the entire universe then why not we all are God's children ??? ...... (Sorry, God is not just like a king in blood and flesh) ! Does his logical brain work only when he analyses Hindu philosophies and stops working as soon as reaches the Church ??
OM
Last edited by devotee; 05 March 2010 at 11:01 PM.
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