Namaste,
This was originally just meant to be a response to a post by ramakrishna but I typed a great length about islam too. I guess it came out along as I was responding to his sentences.
You dont need jesus to learn about all these. There are tonnes of videos on youtube that argue against this supposed morality that xtianity provides us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsgeXubzhf4
watch 2:38 onwards
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLvf12lJuEQ
best video ever
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCovYF51qHE
an excellent debate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l69QN7ixmM
where was the morality of the british who colonized, tortured, humiliated, lied, suppressed and divided hindus up so that we should adopt xtianity and accept xtians as our rulers?
and not to even speak of the british imperialism as white supermacy upon other races using the bible as justification.
At the end of the day its the passages within the bible that tally with your intuition that you accept. So its a matter of agreement, between whats inside one "holy book" and your own intuition.
Lets observe the quran's depiction of jesus
The gospels are man-made completely. It may be corrupted or what not, but its originally corruption itself created by mere men. Lies can be corrupted further after being compiled. But they were originally lies and thus still are.In Islam, Jesus (Arabic: عيسى `Īsā) is considered a prophet Messenger of God who had been sent to guide the People of Israel (banī isrā'īl) with a new scripture, the Injīl (gospel).[1] The Qur'an, believed by Muslims to be God's final revelation, mentions Jesus 25 times.[2] It states that Jesus was born to Mary (Arabic: Maryam) as the result of virginal conception, a miraculous event which occurred by the decree of God (Arabic: Allah). To aid him in his quest, Jesus was given the ability to perform miracles, all by the permission of God. According to Islamic texts, Jesus was neither killed nor crucified, but rather he was raised alive up to heaven
A man that never existed, could not have been born by virginal conception, perform miracles nor raised alive up to the heavens.
muhammad's main intention was to produce a "monotheistic" religion that would trump judaism and xtianity and convert everyone into his faith.
thats why the quran gives description of moses and jesus and tries to potray them as prophets of its own deity and speak of them positively.
the quran pretty much is a book designed to convert everyone. what is most impressive about it is how it takes advantage of the weaknesses of the human pyschology.
if you are jewish or xtian you would naturally be attached to the main figure of your religion that is moses or jesus. so by incorporating them into his book and pretending to "explain" these figures muhammad used them as supposedly preaching about the deity he himself fashioned.
the only intention here is to recruit jews and xtians by bringing them under his religion.
muhammad had a very neat idea, he decided that his deity is the deity of all. but he alone is supposedly the "final and last"(both are the same thing but im quoting the way muslims speak here) messenger of God. and every other religion out there is corrupted.
so whatever major/influential religions muhammad decided to deal with, he "explained" their figures as serving his own religion that he himself manufactured.
if muhammad had decided to use Rama by spinning him to be a prophet... saying Rama was a great king for his people, a noble man of virtues, a great servant of "allah" that sought to kill ravana the enemy of "allah" who attacked innocent people because he was corrupted by "satan". and to fulfill his destiny by killing the enemy of allah, allah granted him miracles such as the boons, the vanara army and the bridge to lanka...
heck I dont even want to think about it.
you see how they play with emotions and potray themselves as better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU8fiayHbVk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoxvKj-z0_0
really when you get to the bottom of it all, its just really messed up, its just sheer exploitation.
and if these people just left whatever they practiced to themselves alone it would be alright. but they want to try and stand above us.
you can just see for yourself the countless number of muslims on youtube trying to propagate their religion. and these filthy untouchables have the audacity to try and tackle our faith.
heres one example
http://www.youtube.com/user/hijabiflower
just read her description
This is my official youtube Channel.I am a Sunni Muslim
I love Islam and I also have love for my Nation of Islam brothers and sisters. I respect all religions and races. I am just trying to be a good muslim. If you have any questions about Islam, muslim women, Nation of Islam, hindu and sikh culture or anything else I will do my best to answer. Asalamu Aleikum (Peace be upon you)
this of course, is all deception. she is performing taqiyyah and dawah.
she calls herself "hijabiflower".
the hijab is the clothing that covers all of the skin. and is supposed to "preserve" of modesty and sign of chastisity.
ironically, this "flower" who has decided to conceal her delicate self in garbage bags in order to prove her modesty and chastisity has got such words to offer.
just read her recent comments
and so much for respect of all people huh."@LouisC89 Yeah, too bad your western women's *censored* are way too loose for muslim men. Western women need some cream to tighten up before they come to the muslim town "
Yeah your allah."If this was true why are soo many western women attracted to islam? Maybe Islam is strangly liberating or maybe your women are just stupid... something tells me my first suggestion might make more sense"
who is she to try and explain to me about Hinduism?
these people are utterly disgusting and i dont ever want to associate myself with them. surely not having to embrace them as siblings of faith.
the muslims have a very bad image in the west, which is mainly due to their own behaviour. they have no one else to blame, really.
and yet today somehow they are mysteriously "moderate" and "peaceful".
history only shows to this as being much to the contrary. we dont have to go any further than the days of muhammad himself. the man who started this all.
and you dont have to judge muslims or the history of islam either. the quran speaks for itself.
Gandhi afterall was a politician. I could care less what he had to say about religion. As a politician you'd want to butter up to as many people as possible.What do you think of Mohandas Gandhi, who found solace in the teachings of Jesus, especially the Beatitudes and the Sermon on the Mount?
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