Re: Are my views against the Vedas?
hariḥ oṁ
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namasté Humanevitae,
Originally Posted by
HumaneVitae
I am very new, so I have no idea if my views are completely against what the Vedas teachs.
I think that the Brahman is more like the Dao, if you know what that is.
Its kind of the same, except I don't think its god, rather just a creative force.
I view the gods as not so much faces of the brahman, more like creations that are powerful. So I am just a hard-core polythiest.
I have been mulling this over in my head for a good while now and its been causing a bit of a faith crisis.
I am not an expert nor intimate on Daoism ( some say Taoism ) - yet if you equate this Dao to creative force, I can see how you may view it
as an equivalent to brahman.
Yet the pickle is this - is brahman this? Yes, but not only this - This brahman is the creative force, wholeness, fullness ( bhūma) , Being (sattā), all that exists and does not exist, all that was, will be, would or could be - all that one can imagine and cannot imagine. It is infinite and finite at the same time - movable and unmovable; every-thing and no-thing at the same time.
There is no place IT is not. It is every level of consciousness the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th - and they all rest on the 4th , turīya. So is this turīya brahman? sure , but that is not all, the fullness of brahman is every thing.
This brahman is ekam evādvitiyam¹ - One truly without a second.
Let me , if I may offer this from the chāndogya upaniṣad (chapter 7) and the great student ( Nārada) asks his teacher/guru:
What is this bhūma? What is this Fullness?
"Do you want to know what Completeness is? And do you want to know what finitude is? Here is the definition," says Sanatkumāra [ the ṛṣi of the vidyā] . "Where one sees nothing except one's own Self, where one hears nothing except one's own Self, where one understands nothing except one's own Self, that is Bhuma, the Absolute; and where one sees something outside oneself, where one hears something outside oneself, where one understands or thinks something outside oneself, that is the finite ( or alpa - small , minute , trifling , little)."
… and where can it be found?
"O my dear Nārada, your question itself is unfounded and unwarranted. Why do you ask where It is, as if It is in space? But if you want me to tell you where It is, I say It is in space, It is in every nook and corner, in every pinpoint of space. There is no space where It is not; there is no space which It does not occupy."
You will see ( I think) the answer to your question is not easily answered in prose or for that matter in books, yet books may help¹ - what helps more is direct experience.
We can talk about a banana all day long, its chemical composition, its weight , height, color, where it grows how it grows, all that. All this knowledge finally makes sense with the first bite of the banana and all comes into focus. Knowledge + experience say the wise is the key to the appreciation of brahman...
praṇām
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Last edited by yajvan; 05 July 2010 at 08:47 PM.
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