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    Re: He becomes 2 fold, 3 fold...

    Yajvan, in a post of yours you comment about how through meditation one begins to manifest the Self even on the smallest of actions and the apparent duality of daily life disappears for this person of clear mind.

    Do you remember what post is this? If not, can you talk more about this?

    Thank you!

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    Re: He becomes 2 fold, 3 fold...

    hariḥ oṁ
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    namasté PI,

    Quote Originally Posted by Pietro Impagliazzo View Post
    Yajvan, in a post of yours you comment about how through meditation one begins to manifest the Self even on the smallest of actions and the apparent duality of daily life disappears for this person of clear mind.

    Do you remember what post is this? If not, can you talk more about this?

    Thank you! Om Tat Sat
    It would seem that information would appear in this string:
    http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?t=6145

    That said, we will need to have a review on this. The expansion of Self, of brahman, the silence within comes in a sequence.
    The silence when the eyes are closed; the notion is to experience sūkṣma gati (refined, subtle awareness), this comes first.


    Once this silence (turīya) is stable we call this enlightenment - yet there is more to unfold so that turīya is experienced on every level of creation. We do not go from pure ignorance to to this level where the whole world is turīya or properly worded as turyātīta.


    When this turīya is our every day experience, the silence is there when the eyes are open or closed, and it never leaves the person. This suggests that sthitiprajñā is firm, or has been established. Some call this rūḍha रूढ - mounted , risen , ascended, sprung up , grown , increased , developed. That is, sthiti स्थिति standing upright or firmly , not falling + prajñā or intuitive wisdom, knowledge is standing firm and has been mounted, rūḍha, or established. The person has become a yogin, or yoked to the SELF, to ātman¹. This person has fulfilled the instruction of kṛṣṇa-ji, be without the 3 guna's, established in Being, yoga.


    You see, in this level of Being , there is the silence of the Self, and there is all of creation that one views, so there is duality. Yet this is dissolved over time as both this Self and all of creation come to be experienced as one union, hence the word uni+verse, universe = unity of all diversity. This silence can be brought to the senses and to all of creation.

    More can be read here: http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1822

    praṇām

    words
    • ātman आत्मन् ātma to breathe; another root verb is āp आप् to pervade, enter; become filled to arrive at one's aim or end
    • sthiti स्थिति standing upright or firmly , not falling ; standing, staying , remaining , abiding , stay , residence
    • prajñā - wisdom, intuitive knowledge
    यतसà¥à¤¤à¥à¤µà¤‚ शिवसमोऽसि
    yatastvaṠśivasamo'si
    because you are identical with śiva

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    Re: He becomes 2 fold, 3 fold...

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    namasté

    Quote Originally Posted by yajvan View Post

    Here we have the Supreme's 5 fold act (pañcakṛtyavidhiḥ) :
    • sṛṣṭi सृष्टि - letting go or emanation or emission - from this all of creation as we know it unfolds. Note it is an emission of all the tattva's that make up creation
    • sthiti स्थिति - continued existence; continuance in being . We may see this as the maintenance of life or of all creation
    • saṁhāra संहार - contraction; drawing in (like an elephant's trunk); fetching back. Note many like to use the word destruction (vilaya - dissolution , liquefaction , disappearance , death , destruction ) yet this is not what is being communicating here, it is tat of drawing back in.
    • tirodhāna तिरोधान - concealing; covering ( like a sheath , veil , cloak ) ; this covering people wish to call māyā, and we have many posts on this subject.
      Yet here in this darśana (view , doctrine , philosophical system ) māyā is the śakti of the Supreme, in this case of śiva. It is His own self-imposed limitation on his own Self. Why so? I hope we can offer a POV that satisfies this question ( It has for me).
    • anugraha अनुग्रह - grace; showing favor, kindness; This we know as His blessings and the main act that brings one to kevala
    If one wished to read a bit more about grace (anugraha)
    this string http://www.hindudharmaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3377 starting with the 3rd post reivew this in some depth.



    praṇām
    यतसà¥à¤¤à¥à¤µà¤‚ शिवसमोऽसि
    yatastvaṠśivasamo'si
    because you are identical with śiva

    _

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