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    Propaganda During the British Raj

    Vanakkam Everyone,

    Many of you probably know that the British engaged in all sorts of anti-Hindu, anti-Indian propaganda when they ruled over the subcontinent. I found some concrete examples of this propaganda when I was looking at the Wikipedia article on Indophobia:

    At the time, British newspapers had printed various apparently eyewitness accounts of British women and girls being raped by Indian rebels, but with little physical evidence to support these accounts. It was later found that some of these accounts were false stories created in order to paint the native people of India as savages who need to be civilized by British colonialists, a mission sometimes known as "The White Man's Burden". One such account published by The Times, regarding an incident where 48 British girls as young as 10-14 had been raped by Indian rebels in Delhi, was criticized as a false propaganda story by Karl Marx, who pointed out that the story was written by a clergyman in Bangalore, far from the events of the rebellion.
    For the actual quote, please see pages 33-34 of Vanishing Women: Magic, Film, and Feminism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTCUSM View Post
    Vanakkam Everyone,

    Many of you probably know that the British engaged in all sorts of anti-Hindu, anti-Indian propaganda when they ruled over the subcontinent. I found some concrete examples of this propaganda when I was looking at the Wikipedia article on Indophobia:



    For the actual quote, please see pages 33-34 of Vanishing Women: Magic, Film, and Feminism.
    This isn't surprising because all 'rulers' engage in this sort of propaganda to convince their people that the 'ruled' are bad people and deserved to be ruled. It's a standard propaganda tactic dating back to the Roman era; therefore, there's nothing unique about British propaganda. It's business as usual. Today, Muslims are being portrayed in this manner so that the west could justify its war on terror. Same story, different settings and characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hansolo View Post
    This isn't surprising because all 'rulers' engage in this sort of propaganda to convince their people that the 'ruled' are bad people and deserved to be ruled. It's a standard propaganda tactic dating back to the Roman era; therefore, there's nothing unique about British propaganda. It's business as usual. Today, Muslims are being portrayed in this manner so that the west could justify its war on terror. Same story, different settings and characters.
    Maybe the West is stretching it. But could they do the same with Buddhists?

    I just enjoy seeing Muslims say their religion is a "religion of peace". When Mahamada has not brought forth any prayer surpassing the Shanti Mantra.

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    Re: Propaganda During the British Raj

    Quote Originally Posted by hanumansolo View Post
    Today, Muslims are being portrayed in this manner so that the west could justify its war on terror.
    That portrayal is based on facts. Evil incarnate needs to be exposed for what it is, not candy coated and presented as something rational; unless you are one of them.

    BTW, do the two of you, you and Usama (TTCUSM) always work as a team?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Believer View Post
    That portrayal is based on facts. Evil incarnate needs to be exposed for what it is, not candy coated and presented as something rational; unless you are one of them.
    Funny the raj also argued in the same manner concerning Indians - that they're exposing Indians for what they are and are only presenting 'facts'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanumansolo View Post
    Funny the raj also argued in the same manner concerning Indians - that they're exposing Indians for what they are and are only presenting 'facts'.
    Funny that even after being OUTED, you would continue your irrational behavior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Believer View Post
    Funny that even after being OUTED, you would continue your irrational behavior.
    So you agree with raj propaganda. Why am I not surprised?

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    Re: Propaganda During the British Raj

    You know who you are, as do we, so just leave!
    Take your Islamic agenda somewhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Believer View Post
    You know who you are, as do we, so just leave!
    Take your Islamic agenda somewhere else.
    So anyone who questions hate propaganda has an Islamic agenda? Boy, are you confused!

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    Rather than parroting the same unsupported accusations of Hindu's having "hate and bigotry against Muslims...why don't you show us with facts how those pointed accusations of actual teachings, aggressive missionizing which does in fact include scripturally supported rapes, and literal genocide of "idol worshiping pagans" is untrue.

    And lest you digress into some idiotic intellectualization, we can also confront the ground reality of exactly HOW those scriptural injunctions of literal hate and intolerance of Hindu's has been acted out throughout history. You will see MILLIONS of Hindu corpses and hundreds of thousands of desecrated Hindu temples...

    and then we can talk about "Hindu" hate and bigotry.


    Bangladesh genocide 1978

    "The Guinness Book of Records lists the Bangladesh Genocide as one of the top 5 genocides in the 20th century."


    "The Bengalis will have to be re-educated along proper Islamic lines. The – Islamization of the masses – this is the official jargon – is intended to eliminate secessionist tendencies and provide a strong religious bond with West Pakistan;

    When the Hindus have been eliminated by death and fight, their property will be used as a golden carrot to win over the under privileged Muslim middle-class. This will provide the base for erecting administrative and political structures in the future.”


    " The Pakistani army and allied paramilitary groups killed about one out of every sixty-one people in Pakistan overall; one out of every twenty-five Bengalis, Hindus, and others in East Pakistan. If the rate of killing for all of Pakistan is annualized over the years the Yahya martial law regime was in power (March 1969 to December 1971), then this one regime was more lethal than that of the Soviet Union, China under the communists, or Japan under the military (even through World War II). (Rummel, Death By Government, p. 331.)"

    "People regard that the best option is to regard “3 million” as not an absolute but an arbitrary number. The proportion of men versus women murdered is impossible to ascertain, but a speculation might be attempted. If we take the highest estimates for both women raped and Bengalis killed (400,000 and 3 million, respectively); if we accept that half as many women were killed as were raped; and if we double that number for murdered children of both sexes (total: 600,000), we are still left with a death-toll that is 80 percent adult male (2.4 million out of 3 million). Any such disproportion, which is almost certainly on the low side, would qualify Bangladesh as one of the worst gendercides against men in the last half-millennium."

    http://www.genocidebangladesh.org/
    I think we need to be honest with the facts, with the history, with the actual religious teachings which promote jihad by the sword to slay the non-Islamic "unbelievers and infidel's." because whatever propaganda you've been taught simply has not accounted for the reality of what's been transpiring as literal war crimes perpetrated by aggressive Islamic fundamentalists who happen to border India. And looked at from this angle, I think it is uncharitable in the extreme to ignore the suffering of the millions dead and blindly blame Hindus in some attempt to whitewash the atrocities committed by Islam and validated as justifiable teachings by their highest authoritative clergy.

    "There is no official estimate of the total death toll of Hindus at the hands of Islam. A first glance at important testimonies by Muslim chroniclers suggests that, over 13 centuries and a territory as vast as the Subcontinent, Muslim Holy Warriors easily killed more Hindus than the 6 million of the Holocaust. Ferishtha lists several occasions when the Bahmani sultans in central India (1347-1528) killed a hundred thousand Hindus, which they set as a minimum goal whenever they felt like "punishing" the Hindus; and they were only a third-rank provincial dynasty. The biggest slaughters took place during the raids of Mahmud Ghaznavi (ca. 1000 CE); during the actual conquest of North India by Mohammed Ghori and his lieutenants (1192 ff.); and under the Delhi Sultanate (1206-1526). The Moghuls (1526-1857), even Babar and Aurangzeb, were fairly restrained tyrants by comparison. Prof. K.S. Lal once estimated that the Indian population declined by 50 million under the Sultanate, but that would be hard to substantiate; research into the magnitude of the damage Islam did to India is yet to start in right earnest.

    Note that attempts are made to deny this history. In Indian schoolbooks and the media, an idyllic picture of Hindu-Muslim harmony in the pre-British period is propagated in outright contradiction with the testimony of the primary sources. Like Holocaust denial, this propaganda can be called negationism. The really daring negationists don't just deny the crimes against Hindus, they invert the picture and blame the Hindus themselves." http://koenraadelst.bharatvani.org/a.../genocide.html

    Gandhi's legacy, partition. The Muslim League under Jinnah declared JIHAD against the Hindu's and started the rioting. When it was over, the Muslims had divided Mother India and created an Islamic territory. Originally 20% of the new Pakistan were Hindu's and Sikhs. Today only 0.8% are left. WHO is speaking about HINDU hatred? Muslims predominate in India, they are catered to by the ruling Congress Party, so much so that the Muslim party in Kerala felt secure enough to enact Sharia and hack off a Christian university professor's right hand for "defaming Mohammed." Muslims are secure enough in India to riot in Bengal and just 2 months ago desecrate and dishonor Kali statue breaking the murthi and destroying the temple and raping the Hindu women and girls in the streets.

    This is Hindu hatred? Why don't you talk about the visceral hatred of Islam for any other community or religion?

    "Boy are you confused!"
    I think you seriously need to look in the mirror and re-evaluate your facts.

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