Persecution of Buddhists by Hindus

[kstrosper]

mohanty, True, the Muslim more so as you said. Islam is a mix of judism, christianity and Zoroastrianism and their perverse Hadist supersitions they are a islamic nationaism.
buddhhism covered india , through to the caucus mountains and into greece.

the biggest threat to religions and especially Buddhism is Islam.

I personalty think Islam is a fraud and is just a political movement.
They brainwash small children to become extremeists and sufism is the militant arm of Islam, westerners seem to thing Sufism is peacefull and most all jihadis are sufi.
http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthrea...ufi-Mujahideen in the words of sufis not westerners.
i studied islam from the inside for 6 months and they know that converts usally can not stomach the superstition of hadiths and at first thing it is logical and scientific and it far from it. they wait till you feel to deep into it to turn back and then they throw the hadiths at people and they are the freakiest and superstitious filth there is . fart and you have to do wodu, the rituals of Islam are so complex and silly (it has a lot of Zoroastrian in it and is so close that it could fool the Zoroastrians and anyone that will listen to there islam missionaries to convert to the weirdest religion there is), their prayer system has to be said in Arabic and they expect everyone to learn a language that is impossible to understand the quran has words that are totally different then the original meanings and it is just backward Hinduism. look at the Islamic symbol it you move it around it is the symbol of Hinduism. it is the averse backward version of Hinduism basically the Satanism of Hinduism. The Kabba in Mecca is the left over of middle eastern sivaism and the kabba holds a siva linga. they circle the kabba and kiss a vagina shaped rock. the way they pray is from Zoroastrianism and all their hadith are from xian and Jewish converts.
they are smart tricksters to say the least. because no sane person would shun dogs and think women should live by the sick rules of the corrupted quran and hadiths. The quran is impossible to understand almost, your not even supposed to pray according to the quran and modern Islam is nothing like what is written in the quran.
they are so blood thirsty and hate any path other then their own. what they do to apostaes in islamic nations is psychotic

[mohanty]

From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecu...uddhists#India

Various personages involved in the revival of Buddhism in India such as Anagarika Dharmapala and the The Mahabodhi Movement of 1890s as well as Dr. B. R. Ambedkar hold the Muslim Rule in India responsible for the decay of Buddhism in India[33][34][35][36][37]
In 1193, Qutb-ud-din Aybak, a Turkish commander, seized control of Delhi, leaving defenseless the northeastern territories that were the heart of Buddhist India. The Mahabodhi Temple was almost completely destroyed by the invading Muslim forces.[34] One of Qutb-ud-Din's generals, Ikhtiar Uddin Muhammad Bin Bakhtiyar Khilji, invaded Magadha and destroyed the great Buddhist shrines at Nalanda.[38] The Buddhism of Magadha suffered a tremendous decline under Khilji.[34]
In 1200 Muhammad Khilji, one of Qutb-ud-Din's generals destroyed monasteries fortified by the Sena armies, such as the one at Vikramshila. Many monuments of ancient Indian civilization were destroyed by the invading armies, including Buddhist sanctuaries[39] near Benares. Buddhist monks who escaped the massacre fled to Nepal, Tibet and South India.[40]
According to the Isdhoo (Laamu Atoll), monks from monasteries of the southern atoll of Haddhunmathi were brought to Malé and beheaded.
Timur destroyed Buddhist establishments and raided areas in which Buddhism had flourished.[41][42]
Mughal rule also contributed to the decline of Buddhism. They are reported to have destroyed many Hindu temples and Buddhist shrines alike or converted many sacred Hindu places into Muslim shrines and mosques.[43] Mughal rulers like Aurangzeb destroyed Buddhist temples and monasteries and replaced them with Islamic mosques.[44][verification needed]
The Ladakh Buddhist Association has said: "There is a deliberate and organised design to convert Kargil's Buddhists to Islam. In the last four years, about 50 girls and married women with children were taken and converted from village Wakha alone. If this continues unchecked, we fear that Buddhists will be wiped out from Kargil in the next two decades or so. Anyone objecting to such allurement and conversions is harassed."[45][46]

The reason Buddhism is shown as having been persecuted by Hindus is partly also to whitewash the record of Islam in India.

When the Ayodhya Ram temple issue took an ugly turn, the Muslim side first tried to prove that there had never been a Ram temple at the site of the Babri mosque. When that failed and the Archeological survey of India showed the remains of a structure below, they started claiming that the temple itself had been built on the remains of a Buddhist shrine. To bolster this argument, they tried to prove with odd instances here and there, that there had been wide-scale persecution and iconoclasm against Buddhists by Hindus in older times.

Thankfully, none of these theories took hold. While it is true that Brahmins and Bhikshus were at odds with each other at various periods of time in India's past, the record can not be equated with the widespread destruction and killing that Muslim invaders brought.

[kstrosper]

My grandfather said that the Tal Mahal is a Siva temple as do many construction crews.

[dogra]

Well this the usual trot a trot garbage, now lets see the truth:

http://agniveer.com/5936/were-buddhi...%28Agniveer%29

Myth #3: Hindu rulers systematically uprooted Buddhism.
This is a very generic myth and to counter it we are going to use chronicles of Chinese travelers, some of whom, where students of Buddhist theology. When Hieun Tsang (the Chinese traveler and a student of Buddhist theology) was in India, king Harshavardhana organized the Kanauj assembly (643 AD). This king was a patron of both Shaivism and Buddhism and in fact Harshavardhana has written plays integrating legends from Puranas and Jataka. The invitees to the Kanauj assembly included King Bhaskaravarman of Kamrupa (Assam), many Buddhist monks, Hindu and Jain scholars. And where did Hieun Tsang pursue further studies? He did it in Buddhist University of Nalanda. Had Hindu rulers were so intent on finishing off Buddhism, how did this University survive? And a couple of centuries prior to this assembly at Kanauj, another Chinese traveler Faxian (330 – 420 AD) had chronicled the hold of Buddhism in India. Even in the two centuries between these two Chinese travelers, Buddhism did not wither away, which, clearly indicates that across this land ruled by Hindu kings, the growth of Buddhism was never curtailed.

[kallol]

Some questions as layman :

1. How much different is Buddhism from Hinduism ? Today's Buddhism - is it the same what Buddha realised or it is a modified version of that ?

2. Will Ramakrishna philosophy, Sai baba philosophy, Ramana Maharishi philosophy, have everything as common and exactly matching Hinduism ? If now then can we term those as separate religion ?

What little I know that most of his ideas matches with what Hinduism said - upto a certain point beyond which they has no answer. That is why there is a misconception that it encourages Aethism.

This is a phenomenon which also engulfs many Advaitins. However going beyond the point through inference lead to a higher perception of the system and thus brings back the Theism.

[wundermonk]

Some folks believe that Buddhism and Hinduism are "similar". Both Advaitins as well as Dvaitins have attempted to establish equivalence between their own conception of Brahman and Buddhist "Shunya".

I think Buddha himself was heavily influenced by the Upanishads. Buddha himself wouldnt deny the existence of the soul. He came up with some set of "unanswerables" and forbade his followers from attempting to speculate on these. These things include questions of cosmogony, etc.

However, later Buddhist logicians wouldnt stop here. They ended up building an entire structure on the "no self" theory. Therefore, this lay the foundations for a lot of intellectual conflict between Hindu Darshanas and Buddhism.

That being said, the "no self" theory doesnt seem to be completely believed by all Buddhists schools of thought. Some believe in Karma and Reincarnation. If Buddhists didnt believe so, we would never have the Jataka Tales.

So, in summary, there are some schools of Buddhism that are close to Hinduism. Some others are diametrically opposed to Hinduism.

The historical Buddha may or may not have approved of all such schools. As I said before, he refused to deny the existence of the soul.

Edited to add: IMHO, a belief system that doesnt believe in an afterlife [like some schools of Buddhism] cannot be classified as a religion. So, I tend to look at Buddhist schools that deny an afterlife as more of an atheistic philosophy. Such schools of Buddhism should properly be considered as a branch of psychiatry. But these Buddhists sometimes are more dogmatic about their beliefs than the faithful. That is a different story altogether.