Fashioning a culture of TRUTH

[NayaSurya]

My very Beloved nephew has been on medication since he was very young. He has severe adhd...

Now, my own Beloved sister, and his mother was given diagnosis of Wolfe-Parkinsons White as a very little child and was put on medication called Digoxin for life.

"You have a heart condition and will be on medication the rest of your life..."

It happens for various reasons, the family genetics have this heart condition and most of us have some form...nothing our ancestors could do would bring such things our way...with the one exception of falling in love, getting married and procreating offspring which would then have this flaw.

Our ancestors aside, whatever body we come into may have an issue that is unrelated to our own karma. For my very sick sister, it was my Mother who owned this karma. I watched it my whole childhood playout. One time a specialist was assigned to our family, a doctor of psychiatry and he suggested that my mother was one of the causes for my sister being so desperately ill.

Back to my sweet nephew, prior to this medication he was severely afflicted and this new medication saved his life. He is now fully functional and very very happy. The medication, thanks to very devoted pyschiatric professionals, has been reduced to the most minimal dose to have the best effect and thanks to modern advances, some of the medications are very very goodly now.

The thing that I always think about when these sorts of conversation arises is the fact that Beloved Is Supreme, in all ways...and whatever happens here is ultimately all part of this wonderful drama. If the medicine was meant to work...it will...and being who we are, Beloved knows each of us so intimately that He knows we have to try to ease these sorts of suffering.

Several of my children have PDD as well as my husband, all off any sort of medications. But, my oldest son has a sydrome called Mcardles syndrome and will be on medication his entire life for this...as he is greatly afflicted.

But, thanks to medication he is full time in University and very well.<3

[Eastern Mind]

Vannakkam: Getting back to the OP, ... I saw tremendous positive change in our education system. But it saddens me to see Indians still addicted to MacAuley. We have a private school here in my city ... uniforms, emphasis on memory, all the old stuff Indian and Sri Lankan parents got used to. At 10 000 per year, I see Indian and Sri Lankan and other British Empire trained parents sending them there. In some ways it might be better, but I say that with great hesitation. They are not taught to think, but do have a lot of facts memorized. But in the end, the student, with help from parents, can overcome either system, the public one, or this type.

Sorry, Brahman, for rambling off topic earlier, derailing the thread. If I had the resources, I'd start a Hindu private school.

Aum Namasivaya

[brahman]

Namast&#233; brahman

I could not agree more with you. I feel that education is the foremost important element in the establishing of solid Dharma.

Being from the West I am fascinated to find that in ancient Eastern tradition there is a base of knowledge which is in my opinion light years ahead of Western philosophy.
Although I have recently become aware of some recent development from Western science that is of great interest to myself in order to understand my own failure in the western education system.
The subject is that of left right brain use and its effect on learning and personality type. Now this quite clearly fits the notion of Ida and Pingala.
Given the quantity of children in the United states and Great Britain consuming mind altering drugs to "stabilise their learning". It is quite clear to any one in their right mind that this cannot continue.

The West is currently crying out for help, the form of which can only be education. The first to be educated to my mind should be Western Psychiatry, closely followed by Western Economists.

Ignorance to Dharma is like a plant growing with no gravity or fixed light source.


Om Shanti

Dear Mana I do not 'disagree' with you at all.


Now contents of the thread once again in brief .


This thread has mentions of ancient education system of India (bharat), its benefits,
Western invasion and derailing of the Indian systems and consequences of it,
need for preparing our children towards the ancient education system

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Ems strong points for the need for these kind of healthy systems

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Various effective methods that can be implemented taking the full advantage of the globalisation practices like social networking and one language (English),
And the need for putting these thoughts into action.

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Children’s ignorance in the area of the rich heritage of India, its potouri of cultures, customs of people, a repository of learning and philosophical thought as embodied in the ancient universities of Nalanada, taxila and the great Vedas.

and ended up with policy of MKG, “we must be the change we need to see”, that is, we need learn it before we could teach our children.


And hope for a better tomorrow....
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thats all about it

Where do you disagree with me dear Mana? Please explain it if you have time.
love

[Mana]

Namast&#233; brahman

I am in complete agreement with you, I apologise for the way this subject which is sensitive to me and very close to my heart. It can and does carry me away.

I feel that the presence of a balanced enlightened teacher can bring light in to the heart of any child. Children being so much more open their chakra naturally open they instantly understand many things we adults have to relearn.

In the West we teach that all is external, that we must compete and dominate all.

As you are all too aware in India.

The lack of attention that we pay in the West to our intellects emotional origins bears witness to our ignorance.


Sorry for any derailment it is just that to my mind this is of the utmost importance. That it be understood that all can learn from our bad example.


My dear Braman I believe that we are striving for the same thing. India's Dharma is now entwined with that of the West. We can now only forge together using each others influence as our cultures are already entwined. Creating a symbiosis of wisdom and knowledge for a balanced future.

ADHD/Bi-polar/schizophrenia are a natural irritation, a symptom of an aggressive competitive society. Natures way of fashioning superb warriors, Kings and spiritual leaders in competitive times.
mAyA will do as she must.

I can only hope that India's soft motherly influence can further calm this savage beast.

It gladdens me to see the philosophical seeds of wisdom and love that she has already sown in our culture. Responsible for so much good change already.

The balance can return if we so wish.

Love

[Mana]

Sorry my dear braman,

That is still no real explanation!
I am not so good with the written communication. Preferring the subtleties of speech and emotional contact which are so often lost amongst the black and white text.

Mana

[smaranam]

The real function of our education system should be to prepare OUR CHILDREN for the best exercise of our own culture, and to protect it in an affectionate way. Let us all join together and frame ways to make our tradition reign supreme.

Namaste Brahman

You bring up this precious point from time to time. I think

1. schools like Jnana Prabodhini (Dnyana Prabodhini), Pune, Maharashtra should be on this thread as prototypes to be followed alongside
2. the Sunday saMskAr varga and
3. parental home-schooling of saMskArs.

http://prashala.jnanaprabodhini.org/
They are an English Medium school where the kids are not deprived of the modern 10 + 2 education , but revolve around Vedic saMskAr, start the day with 5 Geeta Shlok in the assembly, SaMskRt lessons upto Std 10, cirriculum revolving around ancient Vedic for Language Arts, Literature and Social Studies, Ancient Indian Arts of Rangoli, tabla, other intruments (many schools have the Indian arts).

I am sure there are many such schools all over India, particularly Dehli, Gujrath Tamil Nadu etc. but thought Prabodhini required a mention.

By the way, i am not a fan of the "first we should learn everything and become the Truth before teaching the kids" - surely then we will wait till Kalki arrives.

Give the kids what you can - NOW. Let AntaryAmi guide what to give and what to hold back.

Also, as i type i am looking at a Maharashtra State Board (SSC) 6th standard history textbook - it looks fair to me. Gives a good overview of Harappa, Vedic Civilization, "what are upanishads" , mahajanapadas, evolution of jainism, buddhism ... and there is no trace of the imaginary Aryan Invasion Theory. It goes on to Maurya, Ashoka, kingdoms of North and South.
I like the first chapter - "Need for History" - much needed for a 10-11 year old.


om namo bhagavate vAsudevAya ~
praNAm

[smaranam]

Jnana Prabodhini has pinned its faith on spirituality.

Philosophy cannot be divorced from Science. Whereas Science stops at a certain point, Philosophy goes further into the darkness and extrapolates some postulations, such as, whether the Parabrahma has attributes such as 'Sat, Chit and Ananda', These hypotheses cannot, need not necessarily be tested in a laboratory, or seen through a microscope or heard by a radio-telescope... - Dr. Girish Bapat, School Principal

Upasana at Jnana Prabodhini
- 5 shlok Geeta Geetai at morning assembly
- once a week reading from Vedas, Upanishads, Bhagvad Geeta, bhakti geet by saints,
- school-year beginning and end ceremonies (upakarma, utsarjana)

The text of the Upasana for 5th, 6th and 7th grade students is different from the text for those who have taken the vow of Brahmacharya in the 8th standard or later. On all such occasions, there are readings from the Vedas, the Upanishadas, the Bhagawad Geeta and also songs by the saints of the past and the present.

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While certainly such schools need not affect the State affairs (seperation of religion and State) , some parents prefer to send their children to a secular school and expose them to Ramayan, Mahabharat, Geeta, Bhagvat and bhajans via a Sunday school (saMskAr varga) that is more inclined to their own following - preferably at the Temple/MaTh they attend
OR teach these things at home
OR at bhakti centres - small groups (e.g. Shri KrushNa Leela centre).

There are, of course, day-gurukuls of all sorts of panthas / followings , some only upto elementary/primary level. There is also the Bhaktivendanta Gurukul.

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VEDIC MATHEMATICS

Vedic Mathematics Workbooks

http://www.vedicmaths.org/Home&#37;20Page.asp

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I may be wrong but more needs to be done to assure children (and some parents) that spirituality, and Hindu SanAtan Dharma, is not some old-fashioned thing to be ignored, but to be embraced as one's own.

If parents in India today want to engage children in weekend activities like 'Mad Science' and karate, might as well engage them in a saMskAr varga at the place you feel appropriate, if not send them to a spiritual school.

Jai Shri KrushNa