Gaudiya VaishNav Siddha PrANAli
Originally Posted by
anadi
dandavat
Here it is a description of Raganuga Sadhan bhakti given in Bhakti-rasämrita-sindhu 1.2.295
sevA sAdhaka-rUpeNa siddha-rUpeNa cAtra hi |
tad-bhAva-lipsunA kAryA vraja-lokAnusArataH ||
The devotional service should be done both -sevA cAtra hi
in the body of practitioner (externally)- sAdhaka-rUpeNa
and in the perfect(spiritual) body (internally) - siddha-rUpeNa
Desiring to obtain a particular state of love - tad-bhAva-lipsunA ,
whose essence (in obtaining it) is to follow the residents of Vrindavan -sArataH kAryA anu vraja-loka
Tika:
As we have seen the informations about one’s spiritual body (siddha deha) are received in the Siddha Pranali initiation (comprising the ekadas bhava), which is even derided in the branches of Gaudiya Math (which includes Iskcon).
Commenting on this verse Srila Vishwanath Cakrabarti describes from the point of view of a rupa-anuga devotee the two types of angas of bhakti practiced in “sadhak-rupa” and “siddha-rupa” following Rupa Goswami, respectively Rupa Manjari
PAMHO
Nitai-Gauranga Haribol ~
Gaura bhakta vrunda ki jay
I have a hypothetical qn: Acc. to Gaura-GaNodesha-DeepikA, there are only those handful of Yutheshwaris that came with Mahaprabhu in the Gaur Leela.
So, siddha-prANAli would accordingly have limited roles assigned to the sAdhaks by their respective Gurus.
Let us say, hypothetically, we come into this golden period and suddenly 100,000 sAdhaks having taken [mass] dikshA are enlightened, in mAdhurya, in each Yutha (group) [especially Rupa Manjari's group]. Or to extend the hypothesis, let us say a million or billion.
What happens ? Does LalitA, Rupa manjari, IndulekhA devis need a billion assistants ? Now you will say - "don't think with your material mind." Fine.
Also, it does not require rocket science to notice how the manjaris (their names) are actually aspects of Vrajeshwari VrushabhAnu-nandini Radha's personality : rUpa (form), lAvaNya (beauty), rati (attraction-love/sneha), ras (we all know what that is), guNa (qualities), sudhA (again , ras, pure, essence of sweetness - this also happens to be one of Radha's names in RadhaSahasranama), prem (highest selfless Love after mahAbhAv), ananga (formless) ...
So it is no wonder they are buds of the creeper Radha. However, Lalita and Vishakha and other sakhis are also all aspects of Radha.
Now we suddenly have these N billion sAdhanA-siddha gopis all at once. (Well, BrahmaVaivarta PurAN states there are numerous gopis as it is).
Is each gopi supposed to concentrate on a very very very detail specific service ?
Do you see what i mean ? My vayjayanti haar would be wilted by the time it reaches KrushNa or the Yutheshwari. It would be great fortune if one gets to glance at another one picking a flower from VrundAdevi's garden, handing it to her neighbour who puts it in a basket and hands the basket to her neighbour and at the end of the chain is the haar maker who then makes the haar, her gopi-boss checks it, then it is approved and finally signed off by the gopi-boss's boss.....
A sAdhanA-sidha gopi would never see KRushNa at all, but actually He is right beside her, so what am i missing ?
OR , are we not otherwise implying that there are 1 million Rupa manjaris, 10,000 sudhA manjaris, KRushNA alone knows how many Lalitas!
Then why not a zillion Radhas ? Ans: For rasa tattva, and enhancing ras... plus none would have the mahAbhav even close. Fine, but then where do you draw the line, and why shout MAyAvad when two neighbouring sAdhaks claim to be the same identical gopi ? OR, can there be 10,000 Manjaris with the same name ?
Same with all other rasas, in fact worse.
Sorry if this qn is inappropriate for the forum - if so, i shall delete it immediately. Just thought others may have similar qns.
Thank you.
Hare KRushNa
praNAm
Last edited by smaranam; 29 March 2011 at 09:50 PM.
Reason: typo
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