Veda

[Agnideva]

Namaste Yajvan,

what a wonderful and blessed name.. Agni , the divine will.

Thank you Yajvan .

I still am at a loss for this level of insight(s) found on line e.g. the level of robust discussion and interpretation of the Ved. If you have other sites, I would appreciate the pointer to them... Again , thx for your kind help and post.

Yes I agree. I’ve seen many sites which contain the Veda, but it is always the same 19th century translations which completely lack any spiritual insight into the true meaning of the verses. I am currently reading Sri Aurobindo’s book, “Secret of the Veda” which has been very helpful to me in understanding many of the concepts.

Some think 10 mandala's due to the 10 dik bala's or 10 directional points. I am sure you have heard of the various mandala's.

This is interesting Yajvan. I had never heard this before. I had read of only 8 guardians of the directions. Can you please shed some light on the 10 dik-palas?

With regards,
A.

[orlando]

Does anybody know how many slokas/couplets are in each vedas ? Do we have complete vedas or only part of it ? ( any good website for vedas ?? )

According to the scriptures,these days we have only the 6% of the Vedas!

After Srila Vyasadeva divided the Vedas into four books (Rg, Yajur, Sama and Atharva), his disciples further divided them into 1,130 divisions. This is stated in the Kurma Purana (52.19-20):
eka-vimsati-bhedena rg-vedam krtavan pura
sakhanam satenaiva yajur-vedam athakarot

sama-vedam sahasrena sakhanam prabibheda sah
atharvanam atho vedam bibedha navakena tu

Previously the Rg Veda was divided into 21 sections, the Yajur Veda into 100 sections, the Sama Veda into 1,000 sections and the Atharva Veda into 9 divisions.

By http://www.gosai.com/dvaita/madhvaca...hagavatam.html

Each division has 4 minor divisions, namely the Samhitas, Brahmanas, Aranyakas and Upanisads. Thus altogether the 4 Vedas contain 1,130 Samhitas, 1,130 Brahmanas, 1,130 Aranyakas, and 1,130 Upanisads. This makes a total of 4,520 divisions.

At present, most of these texts have disappeared due to the influence of time. We can only find 11 Samhitas, 18 Brahmanas, 7 Aranyakas and 220 Upanisads which constitutes a mere 6% of the entire Vedic canon!

I hope that you will find interesting the following scriptural verses about Vedas.

rcah samani chandamsi puranam yajusa saha
ucchistaj-jajnire sarve divi deva divi-sritah

The Rg, Sama, Yajur and Atharva became manifest from the Lord, along with the Puranas and all the Devas residing in the heavens. (Atharva Veda 11.7.24)

evam ime sarva veda nirmitah sa-kalpah sa-rahasyah sa-brahmanah sopanisatkah setihasah sanvakhyatah sa-puranan

In this way, all the Vedas were manifested along with the Kalpas, Rahasyas, Brahmanas, Upanisads, Itihasas, Anvakhyatas and the Puranas.(Gopatha Brahmana, purva 2.10)

nama va rg-vedo yajur-vedah sama-veda atharvanas caturtha itihasa-puranah pancamo vedanam vedah

Indeed, Rg, Yajur, Sama and Atharva are the names of the four Vedas. The Itihasas and Puranas are the fifth Veda. (Kauthumiya Chandogya Upanisad 7.1.4)


Shri Suta says the following in the Vayu Purana60.16-18, 21-22:

itihasa-purananam vaktaram samyag eva hi
mam caiva pratijagraha bhagavan isvarah prabhuh

eka asid yajur-vedas tam caturdha vyakalpayat
catur-hotram abhut tasmins tena yajnam akalpayat

adhvaryavam yajurbhis tu rgbhir hotram tathaiva ca
audgatram samabhis caiva brahmatvam capyatharvabhih

akhyanais capyupakhyanair gathabhir dvija-sattamah
purana-samhitas cakre puranartha-visaradah

yac-chistam tu yajur-veda iti sastrartha-nirnayah

That almighty Lord (Sri Vyasa) chose me as the qualified speaker of the Itihasas and the Puranas. In the beginning there was only one Veda � the Yajur Veda. This was divided into four portions. From these stemmed the four performances known as the catur-homa by which he (Vyasa) arranged for the performance of sacrifice. The Adhvaryu priest uses the Yajur mantras, the Hotra priest uses the Rg mantras, the Udgata priest uses the Sama mantras, and the Brahma priest uses the Atharva mantras.

O best of all the brahmanas, after this he (Vyasa) who understands the meaning of the Puranas, compiled them and the Itihasas by combining various akhyanas, upakhyanas and gathas.Whatever remained after Vyasa had divided the Vedas into four divisions was considered to also be the Yajur Veda. Thus is the conclusion of the sastras.

Please read also Srimad Bhagavata Purana,Canto 1,Chapter 4:
(14) S�ta Gosv�m� said: "When the second age that ran into the third, ended, was the sage [Vy�sa] born to Par�s'ara from the womb of the daughter of Vasu as a full aspect of the Lord. (15) One morning at the rise of the sun globe, after being cleansed by the water of his morning duties, he sat down at the bank of the river Sarasvat� to concentrate. (16) Knowing past and future, he saw, as it happens from unseen forces in the different ages, that in the religion of his time gradually anomalies were accruing. (17-18) Seeing in his transcendence how with the dull and impatient of the faithless lacking in goodness, there was a decline in the natural power in all types of men as well as in other creatures, and that the common man being unlucky was short-lived, devoted the sage his transcendental vision to the welfare of all the vocations and stages in life. (19) With the insight that there were four sacrificial fires for purifying the work of the people, divided he the one Veda accordingly into four to ensure the continuance of sacrifice. (20) Rig, Yajuh, S�ma and Atharva were the names of these four Vedas while the Itih�sas (the single histories) and the Pur�nas (the collections of histories) were called the fifth Veda. (21) After that the Rig Veda was propagated by the rishi Paila, the S�ma Veda by the learned Jaimini, while Vais'amp�yana was the only one versed enough to qualify for the defense of the Yajur Veda. (22) The serious respect for the Atharva Veda was with Angir�, also called Sumantu Muni, while the Itih�sas and the Pur�nas, were defended by my father Romaharshana. (23) All these scholars on their turn distributed the knowledge entrusted to them to their disciples who did the same with their following who did so with their pupils, and thus the different branches of followers of the Vedas came about. (24)

Please read even what the great ancient sage Yajnavalkya says in the Brihadaranyaka Upanishad.

II-iv-7: As, when a drum is beaten, one cannot distinguish its various particular notes, but they are included in the general note of the drum or in the general sound produced by different kinds of strokes.
II-iv-8: As, when a conch is blown, one cannot distinguish its various particular notes, but they are included in the general note of the conch or in the general sound produced by different kinds of playing.
II-iv-9: As, when a Vina is played, one cannot distinguish its various particular notes, but they are included in the general note of the Vina or in the general sound produced by different kinds of playing.
II-iv-10: As from a fire kindled with wet faggot diverse kinds of smoke issue, even so, my dear, the Rig-Veda, Yajur-Veda, Sama-Veda, Atharvangirasa, history, mythology, arts, Upanishads, pithy verses, aphorisms, elucidations and explanations are (like) the breath of this infinite Reality. They are like the breath of this (Supreme Self).


Regards,
Orlando.

[Mukunda]

Thaks a lot friends,
What a tragedy that we are having only 6% of Vedas with just 5000 years has been passed in KaliYuga. 4,27,000 years more to go before Kalki(Vishnu avatar) come here.
We are fortunate to have having Bhagavad Gita and Puranas without being destroyed.
I came to know that Lord Chaitanya's avatar has been metioned in Vedas/Puranas and he appeared just 500 years ago. Lord Chaitanya is not known to many people surprisingly even though it has been metioned in Vedas.
Question : Is there any more avatar metioned in Vedas in kaliyuga ?

[Agnideva]

I came to know that Lord Chaitanya's avatar has been metioned in Vedas/Puranas and he appeared just 500 years ago. Lord Chaitanya is not known to many people surprisingly even though it has been metioned in Vedas.
Question : Is there any more avatar metioned in Vedas in kaliyuga ?

Namaste Mukunda,

I don't know that Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is mentioned in the Vedas, maybe in some Vaishnava Upanishads. The Bhagavat Purana gives a list of 25 Avatars of Lord Vishnu. The last one yet to come is the Kalki Avatar toward the end of the Kaliyuga.

OM Shanti,
A.

[yajvan]

Hari Om
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Namaste Yajvan,

I had never heard this before. I had read of only 8 guardians of the directions. Can you please shed some light on the 10 dik-palas?

Namasate Agnideva,
let me outline the 10 directions and guardians... this goes further then this discussion, yet lets start with the following:
We know of the directions and I will start with East ( Surya starts in the east and is the beginning of the day).
Direction---------------- Owner---------------------Mantra
East--------------------Indra--------------Om Lam Indrya Namha
South East------------- Agni --------------Om Ram Agnye Namha
South----------------- Yama --- --------- Om Mam Yamaya Namah
Southwest ----------- Nairrtati ---------- Om Kshyam Nairrtye Namah
West ---------------- Varuna ----------- Om Vam Varunaya Namah
Northwest ------------- Vayu ------------- Om Yam Vayuve Namah
North ------------------ Soma ------------Om Sam Somayaa Namah
Northeast -------------- Isana -----------Om Hum Isanya Namah
Vertical down----------- Brahma -------- Om Am Brahmane Namaha
Vertical Up ------------- Ananta ----------Om Hrim Anantaya Namah

[Agnideva]

Northeast -------------- Isana -----------Om Hum Isanya Namah
Vertical down----------- Brahma -------- Om Am Brahmane Namaha
Vertical Up ------------- Ananta ----------Om Hrim Anantaya Namah

Namaste Yajvan,

Thanks very much for the info. It appears that the dig-palas are all Devas from the Veda. I�m assuming that Isana, Brahma and Ananta are the same as Rudra, Brahma and Vishnu, or is it just that they have the same names?

OM Shanti,
A.

[Mukunda]

Lord Chaitanya prediction in Vedas
http://www.acbspn.com/godhead/gaura_1predictions.htm
http://www.acbspn.com/godhead/gaura_2predictions.htm




Is there any specific reference in the Vedas as to when in this yuga, the Supreme Lord�s Avatar- Sri Krishna Chaitanya was scheduled to appear?

** In the Atharva-Veda; Purusa-Bodini-Upanisad, it is said:

saptame gaura-varna-visnor ity aena sva-saktya
caikyam etya pratar avatirya saha svaih sva-manum siksayati

"In the seventh manvantara, in the beginning of the Kali-Yuga, the Supreme Personality of Godhead will, accompanied by His own associates, descend in a golden form to the earth. He will teach the chanting of His own names."


When exactly does He come in the kali-yuga, and where does He specifically appear and what will He do?

** In the Atharva Veda, the Supreme Person says:

itotham krta sannyaso'vatarisyami sa-guno nirvedo
niskamo bhu-girvanas tira-atho' lakanandayah kalau
catuh-sahasrabdhopari panca-sahasrabhyantare
gaura-varno dirghangah sarva-laksana-yukta isvara
prarthito nija-rasasvado bhakta-rupo misrakhyo
vidita-yogah syam

I will descend on the earth after the passage of four thousand years in the Kali-Age, [kalau chatuh sahasrabdhopari] and before the passage of five thousand years [pancha sahasra abhyantare].

I will come on the earth on the bank of the Ganges, [tira-sthah alakanandayah]. I will be a tall and saintly Brahmana devotee. I will have all the auspicious symptoms of an exalted person [dirghangah sarva-laksana-yuktah].

I will exhibit renunciation. I will have all auspicious signs. I will be a devotee, practicing bhakti yoga. I will taste the rasa of My own devotional service.


** In the Sama Veda, the Supreme Lord says:

tathaham krta sannyaso bhu-girvano 'vatarisye
tire'lakanandayah punah punah isvara-prarthitah sa-
parivaro niralambo nirdhuteh kali-kalmasa-kavalita-
janavalambanaya

I shall come to the earth, accompanied by My associates, in a place by the bank of the Ganges. I will advent to save the people who are afflicted and devoured by the sins of the age of Kali. I will manifest as an Avadhut Brahman Sannyasi.


What is the name of the place where the Supreme Lord appears?

** The Chandogya Upanisad describes the place of advent of the Supreme Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya.

This is explained by Srila Bhaktivinode Thakur, in the Sabadvipa Dham Mahatmya (text 5):

tan-madhye daharam saksan
mayapuram itiryate
tatra vesma bhagavatas
chaitanyasya paratmanah
tasmin yas tv antarakaso
hy antardvipah sa ucyate

The spiritual city in the shape of a lotus has the abode of Sri Mayapur as its heart. Sridham Mayapur is the divine abode of Lord Chaitanya, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. In the middle of Mayapur is the place called Antardvip.

(ACBSPN Note: One needs to catch a local train to �Krishna Nagar� from �Sealdah Station� in Calcutta. After the 3 hour train journey, you got to catch a bus for Mayapur, which will take another hour or so. Alternatively, you could catch a local train from Howrah for Navadvip. These trains are very rare - about 4 or 5 a day, so its better to go thru Sealdah. From Navadvip station you got to take a cycle-rickshaw to the �Ghat� [Bank of Ganges]. Then you cross the Ganges and reach Mayapur. The half an hour motorized boat ride may cost you about 1 to 2 Rupees!)


Are there any other relevant scriptural references in the vedas describing the appearance or qualities of Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu?

** The Svetasvatara Upanisad (Ch. 6, text 7) describes the qualities of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Lord Chaitanya:

tam isvaranam paramam mahesvaram
tam devatanam paramam ca daivatam
patim patinam paramam parastad
vidama devam bhuvanesam idyam

"O Supreme Lord, you are the Supreme Mahesvara, the worshipable Deity of all the demigods and the Supreme Lord of all Lords. You are the controller of all controllers, the Personality of Godhead, the Lord of everything worshipable."


** Svetasvatara Upanisad Ch 3 text 12, 14

mahan prabhur vai purusah
sattvasyaisa pravartakah
sunirmalam imam praptim
isano jyotir avyayah

"The Supreme Personality of Godhead is Mahaprabhu, who disseminates transcendental enlightenment. Just to be in touch with Him is to be in contact with the indestructible brahmajyoti. "


** Sri Chaitanya Upanisad (Chaitanyopanisad), text 5:

jahnavi-tire navadvipe golokakhye dhamni govindo
dvi-bhujo gaurah sarvatma maha-puruso mahatma
maha-yogi tri-gunatitah sattva-rupo bhaktim loke
kasyatiti. tad ete sloka bhavanti

"The Supreme Personality of Godhead, Govinda, the supreme enjoyer, whose form is transcendental, who is beyond the touch of the three modes of material nature, and who is all pervading Supersoul residing in the-hearts of all living entities, will appear again in the Kali-age. Appearing as the greatest devotee, the Supreme Personality of Godhead will assume a two-armed form of golden complexion in His abode of Goloka Vrindavan manifested on the bank of the Ganga at Navadvip. He will disseminate pure devotional service in the world. This incarnation of the Lord is described in the following verses."


In what color will the Lord appear in the Kali-yuga, and what will He do?

** Sri Chaitanya Upanisad text 6:

eko devah sarva-rupi mahatma
gauro rakta syamala-sveta-rupah
chaitanyatma sa vai chaitanya-saktir
bhaktakaro bhakti-do bhakh-vedyah

"The Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is the master of all transcendental potencies, and who may be known only by devotional service, [bhakti vedyah] appears in innumerable transcendental forms. He has appeared in red, white and black complexions, [gauro rakta syamala sveta rupah] and He will also appear in the golden form of Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu. He will assume the role of a perfect devotee [bhakta akarah] and He will teach the conditioned souls the path of pure devotional service [bhakti dah].


What is the nature of the form of Lord Chaitanya and how is He understood?

** Chaitanya Upanisad. text 7:

namo vedanta vedyaya
krmaya paramatmane
sarva chaitanya rupaya
chaitanyaya namo namah

I offer my respectful obeisances unto Him, who is understood by Vedanta [namo vedanta vedyaya], who is Lord Krishna [Krishnaya], the Supersoul [paramatmane], whose form is fully transcendental and conscious of everything [sarva-chaitanya-rupaya]. We offer our humble obeisances again and again. [chaitanyaya namo namah]


What is the result of understanding the divine position of Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu?

** Sri Chaitanya-Upanisad. text 8:

vedanta vedyam purusam puranam
chaitanyatmanam visva-yonim mahantam
tam eva viditva' mrtyum eti
nanyah pantha vidyatetyanaya

"Knowing Him who is the object of knowledge in the Upanisads, the oldest person, the embodiment of consciousness, the source of the universe and the greatest of all, one crosses over death. There is no other path for going there."


What will Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu do in this incarnation ?

** Sri Chaitanya-Upanisad. text 9:

sva-nama mula-mantrena sarvam hladayati vibhuh

The Supreme powerful [vibhuh] Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya appears in His golden form, and He will fill the universe with bliss [hladayati] by the chanting of His own holy names [sva-nama-mula-mantrena].


Which mantra will this yuga avatar chant?

** Sri Cartanya Upanisad text 10.

sa eva mula-mantra japati harir iti krishna iti rama iti

Sri Krishna Chaitanya will chant the maha-mantra comprised of the divine names of Hari, Krishna and Rama. i.e.,

Hare Krishna Hare Krishna
Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama
Rama Rama Hare Hare

(ACBSPN Note: the pronunciation of �Rama� is �rAma� or �rAm� and *not* "rAmA" as commonly misunderstood.)


Does Lord Chaitanya appear in every day of lord brahma? Just like the original Personality of Godhead, Lord Sri Krishna does appear once in every day of Lord Brahma.

** Answer: Srila Prabhupada once explained in Melbourne, Australia, in answer to the question of how long it would be before Lord Krishna would come to this planet again in His personal form: after 8 billion, 600 milion years.

Devotee: How long do you say it is before Krishna comes to this planet again in His physical form?

Srila Prabhupada: Now, calculate, I have already given the duration of one day, twelve hours, of Brahma means 4,300,000 years multiplied by one thousand....the eight billion.

Devotee (2): 600,000,000.

Srila Prabhupada: So Krishna comes after this period in one day, after one day of Brahma, He appears.

Devotee: Srila Prabhupada, does Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu also appear every day of Brahma?

Srila Prabhupada: Yes, following Krishna. Krishna comes in the Dvapar-Yuga. There are four sets of yugas: Satva, Treta, Dvapar, Kali. So Krishna comes at the end of Dvapar-Yuga, and Chaitanya Mahaprabhu comes in the Kali-Yuga so almost the same year, same circulation... Similarly, Krishna appears in rotation in this universe after so many years, eight billion years. So next He goes to another universe....
[Melbourne Australia. 22nd May 1975.]


Did the Srimad-Bhagavatam (Bhagavat-Puran), the foremost of all Vedic literatures predict the appearance of Lord Chaitanya Maraprabhu?

** In the seventh canto of the Srimad-Bhagavatam, Prahlad Maharaj directly hints at the hidden nature of the Supreme Lord's appearance. Because the Supreme Lord is also called Tri-Yuga, or one who appears in only three yugas (satya, dvapara, treta), He is sometimes said to appear in a concealed form, in the age of Kali.

channah kalau yad abhavas tri-yugo'tha sa tvam

(Srimad Bhagavatam 7.9.38)


Are there any more direct references in the Simad Bhagavatam, than the above reference?

** In the Tenth Canto of the Srimad Bhagavatam, chapter eight, Gargamuni the family priest of Nanda Maharaja, explains that the young boy Sri Krishna has three colors - white, red and yellow - when He appears in His transcendental form in different ages. In the current incarnation of Krishna, He has appeared ...as black.

asan varnas trayo hy asya grhnatotnvyugam tanuh
suklo raktas tatha pita idanim krmatam gatah

(Srimad-Bhagavatam 10.8.13)

Srila Krishna das Kaviraj Goswami, the celebrated author of the Sri Chaitanya-charitamrta, explains that the three colors of white, red and yellow are the three bodily colors which the Supreme Lord assumes in the ages of Satya, Treta and Kali respectively.

sukla rakta pita-varna ei tina dyuti
satya-treta-kali-kale dharena sri-pati

The Bhagavatam explains in the conversation between Karabhajan Muni and King Nimi, that in the Dvapara-Yuga, the Supreme Lord, the Personality of Godhead appears in a blackish form [dvapare bhagavan syamah]. He has a yellow dress and carries His own weapons [pita-vasa-nija-ayudhah]. He is beautified with the mark of Srivatsa and the Kaustubha jewel [sri vatsa-adibhih ankais ca laksanaih]. This is the actual description of His characteristics [upalaksitah].

The great sage continues his instruction to King Nimi by saying that people in general in the age of Dvapar-Yuga worshiped the Lord of the Universe [iti dvapara urvisam stuvanti jagad isvaram]. In the age of Kali, they worshipped the Supreme Person by the regulation of the scriptures [tantra vidhana].

krishna varnam tvisakrmam sangopangastra parsadam
yajnaih sankirtana prayair yajanti hi sumedhasah

(Srimad-Bhagavatam 11.5.32)
"In the age of Kali, intelligent persons perform congregational chanting to worship the incarnation of Godhead who constantly sings the holy name of Krishna. Although His complexion is not blackish, He is Krishna Himself. He is accompanied by His associates, servants, weapons and confidential companions."


How does this verse refer to the advent of Lord Chaitanya, since his name is not directly mentioned there?

** Just as the symptoms and characteristics of the various previous incarnations are mentioned in the scriptures, similarly the symptoms of the appearance of Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu are described.

Krishna-varnam indicates that He belongs to the category of Krishna. Krishna varnam also means one who constantly repeats and sings the name of Krishna. The main business of Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu was the chanting of the holy name of Krishna. Thus the words Krishna varnam and Krishna Chaitanya are equivalent.

Srila Krishna das Kaviraj Goswami has elucidated the two meanings of the words Krishna varnam by stating:

krishna ei dui varna sadayanra mukhe
athava krmake h'nho varne nija sukhe

Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu always sings the two syllables Krish & na [Krishna ei dui varna sada yanra mukhe], or He always relishes great transcendental pleasure while describing Lord Krishna [athava krmake tinho varne nija-sukhe].


Is there any hint or explanation of His bodily characteristics?

His bodily complexion is not black [tvisa akrishnam]. Lord Chaitanya appeared in a very light, golden like complexion. His complexion was yellow [akrma-varane kahe pita-varana]. Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is very beautiful.

Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is often described as Gaurasundara. Gaura means fair and Sundar means beautiful. Sometimes He is also called Gauranga or one who has a very fair complexion.

[sm78]

Namaste Yajvan,

I had never heard this before. I had read of only 8 guardians of the directions. Can you please shed some light on the 10 dik-palas?

The worship of the dasa dikpals is an integral part of shakti puja. Ofcourse maynot be universally applicable, but it is atleast what I have seen in kali pujas.

The 10 dikpals are the protectors of the aryavarta in vedic times. The essence is to make us realize that protecting the land of dharma from foreign threats is an integral part of dharma and sadhana. Dikpals were indeed great saktas in this regard.

[yajvan]

Hari Om
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The worship of the dasa dikpals is an integral part of shakti puja. Ofcourse maynot be universally applicable, but it is atleast what I have seen in kali pujas.

The 10 dikpals are the protectors of the aryavarta in vedic times. The essence is to make us realize that protecting the land of dharma from foreign threats is an integral part of dharma and sadhana. Dikpals were indeed great saktas in this regard.

Namaste sm78,
Thank you for your post, and what you say could be true, yet the 10 dikpalas has much to do with:

• the 4 directions of life - Dharma, Artha, Kama and Moksha (Cardinal directions) and Vastu shanti; Note that this from Vastu shastra, that is the science of vastu, from vasu, some say earth. Some say vastu etymologically means ' the place where people dwell ' i.e. vasanti pranito tra , so says S.K. Ramachandra Rao. We know too that vesma means that in which people enter. In English its been called the vestibule for years, and not many people use this word in this modern day.
• Now, who resides in this space? Vastu Purusha, also known as vastospati.
• Using this knowledsge of direction, the owners (devata), etc is a great science I only have limited knowledge of yet read about this the best I can.
• Who owns what direction is important ( hence the 10 I called out in the previous post) as called out as the dik-palas. Thus up and down (vertical is used here) as the Brahmasthan is found in the center of the home, temple, etc. Vastu designed homes have at the center akasha , with no clutter, objects, furniture, etc.
• In Jyotish there is also dig-bala or directional strengh, or where the graha's get more strength based on the direction. Perfect example is east, owned by Sun and has its dig-bala there too. Sani's dik-bala is west, Guru or Jupiter is North east, like that.
• When we talk direction, we cannot omit Kalacharaka and its influences. In Kalacharaka ( Or time wheel) we have the 8 directions , starting with the east and going clock wise i.e. SE,. S, SW, W, NW, N, NE, then back to E. These directions are associated with the graha's in one chart, and the 27 Nakshatra's ( or asterisms of the moon) .
• This whole knowledge is part Kalachakra Tantra, of which I am without any footing. From a Joytish perspective the Kalachakra is used to see body, mind and prana, and how it enters, and is consumed, blocked, etc.

More reading on this can be found with Sthapatyaveda, Agni purana, Garuda purnana, Brahmanda purana and Skanda Purana.
pranams,

[atanu]

Lord Chaitanya prediction in Vedas
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** Svetasvatara Upanisad Ch 3 text 12, 14

mahan prabhur vai purusah
sattvasyaisa pravartakah
sunirmalam imam praptim
isano jyotir avyayah

"The Supreme Personality of Godhead is Mahaprabhu, who disseminates transcendental enlightenment. Just to be in touch with Him is to be in contact with the indestructible brahmajyoti. "


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Dear,

A personality, howsoever supreme, cannot assume the identity with the BEING. Is your shortness you?

Om