Re: Shiva as the greatest Vaishnava?
Pranam
if you read OP, you will realize the question was,what do other vaishnava other than Iskcon think of Lord Shiva in relation to Lord Vishnu, so your quating brahma smahita an obscure text no one other then Gaudya follow is not very useful.
Let us not make this another Shiva V Vishnu debate
Originally Posted by
smaranam
Namaste,
This is tadAtmictA between Govind and Shambhu.
SB 9.4.63 KrushNa says : "I am completely under the control of My devotees, indeed, I am not at all independent. Because My devotees are completely devoid of material desires, I sit only within the cores of their hearts. What to speak of My devotees, even those who are devotees of My devotee are very dear to Me."
There is no diff betN Govind and Shambhu yet ...
Shambhu (curds) is the transformation of Govind (milk) for a purpose. BramhaSamhita 5.45 spoken by Lord BramhA.
One is shankha-chakra-gadhAdhar , the other is trishula-damaru-dhar.
There is no diff betN Radha and KrushNa, yet KrushNa is Shaktiman Radha is Shakti. Same contradictory verses can be brought about Radha and KrushNa - i know this is a bit of apples Vs oranges, but still.
We don't worship Shiva or Radha as the Supreme - just because They are the "heart and soul and atma" of KrushNa. KrushNa is KrushNa. period. One-pointed buddhi-yogam BG chap 2.
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Again it is not about one pointed worship either.
you will also find sects that follow Radha and give her the utmost worship.
I can quote from the same Puran where Vishnu says there is no different between us three.
also from the same puran that even Vishnu can not understand your (Shiva) glories.
It is very important to note in chapter 10 in the Gita Lord Krishna say people choose to worship me in various different way.
And when Arjun asks;
How may I know You, O Lord, by constant contemplation? In what form (of manifestation) are You to be thought of by me, O Lord? (10.17)
Rest is up to individual to accept what he is saying in his reply
Jai Shree Krishna
Rig Veda list only 33 devas, they are all propitiated, worthy off our worship, all other names of gods are derivative from this 33 originals,
Bhagvat Gita; Shree Krishna says Chapter 3.11 devan bhavayatanena te deva bhavayantu vah parasparam bhavayantah sreyah param avapsyatha Chapter 17.4 yajante sattvika devan yaksa-raksamsi rajasah pretan bhuta-ganams canye yajante tamasa janah
The world disappears in him. He is the peaceful, the good, the one without a second.
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