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    Vannakkam: I always though ancient kingdoms with the provision that the king is fair and just worked quite well. Of course he had his advisors. Even the Tirukkurral has verses advising the King how to manage his country in a fair and just way.

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    Think of a nation ruled by the likes of yudhiṣṭhira-ji¹, the son of dharma. His advisors would be the brāhmaṇa-s¹.
    What then of a society that would be on the right path ?

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    • yudhiṣṭhira - the eldest pāṇḍu . He is often called dharma-putra or dharma-rāja
    • brāhmaṇa - one who has divine knowledge ; a brahman , a man belonging to the 1st of the twice-born classes
    यतसà¥à¤¤à¥à¤µà¤‚ शिवसमोऽसि
    yatastvaṠśivasamo'si
    because you are identical with śiva

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    Most certainly, but in a rough modern example of Tito, what happens when he crosses over? What is plan next to continue this?

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    Capitalism is the economic variant of the principle of "survival of the fittest". Of course, that fittest could mean smartest, most industrious, more resourceful, and more entrepreneurial etc. These qualities lead to monetary gains. The question is what kind of environment is needed for those qualities to be fully realized or come to the surface?

    In my experience, America has the best environment for this to happen. I live in the Silicon Valley and I've met scores of people who've come from humble means and become multi-millionaires through hard work, perseverance, and a never-ending desire to improve their lot.

    This constant drive for improvement and self-aggrandizement, is antithetical to Hindu Dharma. While the former relies on individuality and self-aggrandizement, Hinduism is the path to dissolve any semblance of individuality in the end. Of course, this is an Advaitic viewpoint but it is not too far off from other Hindus' views.

    Hindu kings of the past have always been measured by how much they did for society. In fact, that is the yardstick to measure anyone trying to get into power IMO. The common man should be able to see how much the candidate has dedicated himself to the betterment of others and their lot. Without selflessness, governance is lost. Those who proclaim that successful businessmen can be great leaders (politically) are sorely mistaken. A business and a country (even state) are two entirely different things. To make a business more streamlined and financially robust, a businessman may lay off hundreds or thousands of people he feels are not contributing to the betterment of the company. What can a leader do to people who are the same way with respect to the state? Jettison them into the ocean?

    This is why the gurukula needs to be re-established and holistic learning/education needs to be enforced. Hindu schools FTW!

    A nation that follows Hindu Dharma, and India was such a nation, can truly realize the full potential of humanity, again, as India did in her glorious past. It is self-evident that India needs to be publicly and forcefully declared a Hindu nation in principle, character, and action.

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    ...and the Internet said, "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to TatTvamAsi again."

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    >Capitalism is the economic variant of the principle of "survival of the fittest". Of course, that fittest could mean smartest, most industrious, more resourceful, and more entrepreneurial etc

    That, is social Darwinism, a theory REGARDING capitalism but not capitalism itself. Capitalism in the true sense of the word w/o government intervention in the market is based on the idea that voluntary interactions between individuals can be mutually beneficial. Let's say you want a jug of wine from your neighbor and let's say you both agree on a currency(copper wire) you give him xx amount of currency for yy amount of product. Both people end up happy and both have benefited.


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    In my experience, America has the best environment for this to happen.

    Of course, America does have the best enviroment for this to happen but it's steadily decreasing because since at least 70 years ago the government started interfering with the economy(income taxation, Federal Reserve, abolitment of the Gold Standard) all these things have not only seen an enourmous decline not only in economic productivity, but they have INCREASED the amount of people in poverty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yajvan View Post
    Think of a nation ruled by the likes of yudhiṣṭhira-ji¹, the son of dharma. His advisors would be the brāhmaṇa-s¹. What then of a society that would be on the right path ?
    What would yudhiṣṭhira-ji form as his base line principle of his nation ? I am of the opinion he would consider the following as a guiding light from the ṛṣi śamvanana.


    From the the ṛg (rig) ved , the ṛṣi is śamvanana¹, agni is devatā, the meter (chandas) is triṣṭubh.

    Meet together, talk together, let your minds apprehend alike;
    In like manner as the ancient gods concurring accepted their portions at the sacrifice.

    Common be the prayer of these assembled worshippers, common be the acquirement, common the purpose, associated by the desire. I repeat for you a common prayer, I offer for you with a common oblation.

    Common be your intention, common be the wishes of your hearts, common be your thoughts,
    so that there may be thorough union among you.

    The wisdom offered by this ṛṣi is wholeness, fullness of the human race. This is why sanātana dharma is so noble and holds the highest and most esteemed place on this good earth.

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    ṛṣi śamvanana - from the family of añgrias has a beautiful name:
    • śam ( to prepare, arrange) +
    • vana (plenty, abundance) +
    • na (a jewel or pearl - this is the 3rd derivation of na).
    • ṛṣi śamvanana is the jewel that prepares in abundance. What is he preparing? The mantra-s and śloka-s of the saṁhita
    यतसà¥à¤¤à¥à¤µà¤‚ शिवसमोऽसि
    yatastvaṠśivasamo'si
    because you are identical with śiva

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