Jivan-Mukta

[Ekoham]

Namaste All,

What is jivan-mukta? How does one know he has become Jivan-Mukta? Does scriptures give guidelines on same? How long does one live after becoming ivan-mukta and why?

Pranam

Ekoham

[saidevo]

Found some links I have not gone through:
http://www.hinduwebsite.com/hinduism...jivanmukti.asp
http://veda-upanishad.blogspot.com/2...ivanmukta.html
http://swamij.com/upanishad-varaha-bhumikas.htm
http://www.messagefrommasters.com/up...panishads3.htm
http://www.arunachala-ramana.org/upa..._upanishad.htm

http://www.dlshq.org/saints/jivanmukta.htm
http://www.nondualitymagazine.org/no...jivanmukta.htm
http://www.yogamag.net/archives/2009/bfeb09/jivan.shtml

[yajvan]

hariḥ oṁ
~~~~~~

namasté

Namaste All,

What is jivan-mukta? How does one know he has become Jivan-Mukta? Does scriptures give guidelines on same? How long does one live after becoming ivan-mukta and why?

vasișțha-ji says,

He is the jīvanmukta to whom this world of the senses has ceased to exist although he lives and moves in it; and only the all pervading vyoman exists.

The 6 chapters (prakaraṇa &#185 of the yogavasișțharāmāyaṇa (yoga-vasișțha-rāmāyaṇa) is quite helpful to this conversation. The 6th chapter pays special attention to liberation yet is fortifed by the other 5 preceding chapters

The 6 prakaraṇa-s

• Vairāgya prakaraṇaṃ - vairāgya is dispassion, non-attachment
• Mumukṣu prakaraṇaṃ - mumukṣu is a seeker with the burning desire for kaivala or mokṣa (liberation)
• Utpatti prakaraṇaṃ - utpatti is creation, origination, generation, ~creation ~
• Sthiti prakaraṇaṃ (sthā - to stand) sthiti a state or condition, ~ existence ~
• Upaśānti prakaraṇaṃ - upāsana is the act of throwing off; upaśānti is cessation , intermission , remission ~dissolution ~
• Nirvāṇa prakaraṇaṃ - nirvāṇa = 'nir' meaning out + 'vā' ( as in vāyu) is to blow. What is one blowing out? The cycle of birth and death, ignorance. The extinction ( blowing out) of all impressions. If we were talking
  the yoga sutras of Patañjali, samādhi-pāda, 2nd sutra, this would be called citta-vṛtti-nirodhaḥ or the cessation/stilling of all mental activities.

A one line description for each prapāṭhaka¹

• Vairāgya prakaraṇaṃ - the true nature of life in this world- 5% of this book
• Mumukṣu prakaraṇaṃ - the qualifications of a seeker - 3% of the book
• Utpatti prakaraṇaṃ - many short stories that bring to light the nature of this creation -
  what is, and what 'seems' to be - 22% of the book
• Sthiti prakaraṇaṃ - in story format, it offers a view of this existence of this world and the
  foundation that supports it - 9% of the book
• Upaśānti prakaraṇaṃ - knowledge that is offered to dissolve false impressions - 16% of the book
• Nirvāṇa prakaraṇaṃ - knowledge to support the destruction ( blowing out) of ignorance -
  45% of the book

praṇām

words

• prakaraṇa प्रकरण - production , creation ; treatment , discussion , explanation ; this is equal to prapāṭhaka
• prapāṭhaka प्रपाठक - chapter or subdivision of a book; a lecture.

[yajvan]

hariḥ oṁ
~~~~~~

namasté


Now if one wanted to go deeper and wider on this jīvanmukta conversation and has already read the yogavasișțharāmāyaṇa (yoga-vasișțha-rāmāyaṇa) then there is another reference.
Consider the the book jīvanmukta viveka by svāmī vidyāraṇya. It is composed of 5 chapters.

Yet there is more to this conversation I wish to add. Even śuka-ji known as śukadeva was a son of vyāsa ; also the narrator of the bhāgavata-purāṇa to king parikṣit, pondered this question ' is this it ?' . More on this later.

praṇām

[Ekoham]

Namaste,

Thank you Saideoji and Yajvanji.
I will be more than happy, to hear more on "Jivanmukta". Most of the points mentioned in "yogavasișțharāmāyaṇa" have been well experienced. More direct info than links would be appreciated.

Pranam

Ekoham

[yajvan]

hariḥ oṁ
~~~~~~

namasté

ekoham writes,

I will be more than happy, to hear more on "Jivanmukta".

This jīvanmukta condition is the experience of wholeness...What does the wise say about this ?

A great student nārada-ji asks his teacher/guru: Please introduce me to this great mystery of Being that you call Bhūmā. What is Bhūmā? What is this Fullness?

His guru, the ṛṣi sanatkumāra-ji offers the following:

Do you want to know what Completeness is? And do you want to know what finitude is? Here is the definition, says sanatkumāra-ji. Where one sees nothing except one's own Self, where one hears nothing except one's own Self, where one understands nothing except one's own Self, that is Bhuma, the Absolute; and where one sees something outside oneself, where one hears something outside oneself, where one understands or thinks something outside oneself, that is the finite.

He continues, O my dear nārada, your question itself is unfounded and unwarranted. Why do you ask where It is, as if It is in space? But if you want me to tell you where It is, I say It is in space, It is in every nook and corner, in every pinpoint of space. There is no space where It is not; there is no space which It does not occupy.


From the chāndogya upaniṣad 7.24.1

praṇām

[yajvan]

hariḥ oṁ
~~~~~~

namasté

Yet there is more to this conversation I wish to add. Even śuka-ji known as śukadeva was a son of vyāsa ; also the narrator of the bhāgavata-purāṇa to king parikṣit, pondered this question ' is this it ?' . More on this later.

This story can be read in the mahopaniṣad ( Some write maha upaniṣad) . There are 6 chapters (prapāṭhaka) to this upaniṣad. The story of śukadeva appears in chapter 2. He, a realized being still has doubts on this being the final abode of fullness.

He asks his father vyāsa-ji various questions but this does not satisfy śukadeva. Hence vyāsa-ji suggests that śukadeva visit king janaka to pursue more of his questions. It is here where śukadeva finds his peace. I will leave the reading to you.

praṇām

[Ekoham]

.......

Consider the the book jīvanmukta viveka by svāmī vidyāraṇya. It is composed of 5 chapters......

praṇām

Namaste Yajvanji,

Is this book available online?

hariḥ oṁ
~~~~~~

namasté

This story can be read in the mahopaniṣad ( Some write maha upaniṣad) . There are 6 chapters (prapāṭhaka) to this upaniṣad. The story of śukadeva appears in chapter 2. He, a realized being still has doubts on this being the final abode of fullness.

He asks his father vyāsa-ji various questions but this does not satisfy śukadeva. Hence vyāsa-ji suggests that śukadeva visit king janaka to pursue more of his questions. It is here where śukadeva finds his peace. I will leave the reading to you.

praṇām

Is this story available online?

Pranam

Ekoham