Virgin Mary

[shian]

Mariology

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariology

[sm78]

Mariology

Dangerous territory, stay away for your own good.

[sanjaya]

Heh, yeah. Catholics worship Mary, Protestants hate it. What's more to say?

[shian]

hahaha just for knowledge

[Jainarayan]

Namaste sanjaya.

Heh, yeah. Catholics worship Mary, Protestants hate it. What's more to say?

Not to split hairs, but Roman Catholics, the Orthodox, and Anglicans (I think the Anglicans too, 99% sure), only venerate and revere her, above all saints but below God. She isn't viewed on the same level as God, nor worshipped in addition to or in place of God. But she is prayed to, to intercede with God for mortals. At any rate, it is indeed a bone of contention between RC v. Protestants.

[Sahasranama]

[Jainarayan]

What's this garbage!? I don't see a bottle of Tabasco sauce.

[sunyata07]

Namaste,

TBTL, you make an accurate statement, but from what I've always seen of Catholics, the majority of them don't appear to differentiate between worship of God and Madonna. The primary and secondary schools I attended had a host of prayers which were to be recited before the beginning of class or assembly, most of them addressed almost exclusively to the Virgin Mary. I hardly think most people who pray at the shrines care to tell (or are even able if asked on the spot) the difference between the levels of reverence, come to think of it.

Still, it's interesting to note how traces of Goddess worship (bona dea or mater dea cults in Rome and the pre-Christian religions of Europe) still pervade some Christian sects.

Om namah Shivaya

[Jainarayan]

For sure; we know that people of all religions and beliefs deviate from "canon".

Almost all of Christianity was lifted from pagan and preceding religions: Mesopotamian, Roman, Germanic, and some probably even made its way from India and south and central Asia westward.

Not to start a tormenta de mierda (I'm sure the word censor would catch the English translation ), several stories in Christianity seem to have been lifted from the life of Krishna, who did precede Christianity by 3,000 years.

Consider that Mary bore a god-child who was "implanted" in her womb by a divine power; Devaki bore Krishna, not by physical intimacy with Vasudeva, but by divine intervention. Both Jesus and Krishna had attempts on their lives by an envious ruler, and had to be secreted away for safety. There are some smatterings of similarities between things Jesus said and Krishna said in the Bhagavad Gita. I see a definite plagiarism by Abrahamism taken from every culture to the east of Palestine 3,500 BCE onward.

No, I'm not one of those people drawing parallels to show they are the same person (so no wailing and gnashing of teeth or stoning from the audience). I firmly believe that much of Christianity, and Judaism was plagiarized from the ancient Near East. And Islam is a total rip off of Judaism and Christianity, not a continutation. Nothing about Abrahamism is original, except maybe the bloodshed and conquering. On that it has the market cornered.

[shian]

Very interseting,

but Roman chatolic accept and adopt the idea of Mother Goddess , Queen of Heaven to spread Christianity among paganism etc, this is more easy than what Protestant do to insult pagan etc, so Roman Catholic more easy to welcomed by pagan etc. But they also make sure that this is accpted by biblle and their other scripture and tradition. Also many miracle and mind healing was happened. But all of religion still have negative side .

You can read the history about Our Lady of Guadalupe. St Juan Diego is american aborigin, they get decimation Erurope, clan decimation and Gods icon decimation etc, but how can he receive Christ (the religion of Europe) ? this is by vision of Mary. After Mary become Our Lady of Guadalupe, many aborigin is converted to chatolic.

So some Hindu also receive Christ, receive Virgin Mary, and said they are manifestation of Baghavan to help western people in different ways . This kind if do in right way, also can make some Christian accept Hindu teachings.
For example (not to care about who is Sri Sathya Sai Baba), Satyha Sai Baba concept about Jesus etc, already success to make some abrahamic religion learn Hindu. But if we rejected their Deitys, this make they will be difficult to accept Hindu teaching. I think Deitys is netral, because different people under same religion have different way to understand their God, so the concept is wrong is not in Deitys (mind can make Deitys become anythings, also mind can make srcipture become many explanation), but wrong is on the people (the way they understand Deitys).