Re: Adwaitabad and ...........
ii) if you say both nirguna nirakar nirvishes brahma and saguna sakar savishes brahma are same then where there is a place for perception in the realm of maya ? does it not contradict ? who is maya and why there is maya or three states of reality.This is simple that both are two sides of a coin but if you put some kind of maya or a states of reality on any of them , will not there be a imbalance in their status ? and if you say nirguna nirakar and nirvishes is the highest reality of brahma then you should not say both sides are same . in that case there must have a higher and lower aspect of brahma ,i.e. there will be two brahmas.
iii) i want to know why should i be in search of brahma ? and how and which brahma i have to follow ?
Imagine a Screen in a movie theatre.On the large screen,the middle the projector is projecting the movie in middle part,so that part we are seeing the picture.This is actually illusion perceived upon the screen,actually there is no real happening of any action.This portion of screen where projector is reflected is called Saguna-sarvishesa brahman.The other bigger part of the screen which we are not seeing is called Nirguna-nirvishesa brahman. And entire screen is called Purna-Brahman.
Here The projector is MAYA.but the difference between the analogy and maya of brahman is that the Maya is not external energy,but the inherent nature of the brahman and self-luminescent.Just like heat is synonymous with fire,but not just an attribute/nature,similarly Maya is very basic property of brahamn.
So now just imagine,isn"t the screen same in it"s entirety? And is there any actual change on the central part of the screen where we project the projector light?
Now you should be able to judge which brahman you should aim for.
Saguna Srikrishna is the means, Nirguna srikrishna is to be attained.
v) if you say krishna is both saguna and nirguna brahma ,that means reaching to krishna is reaching to brahma. Is it jnan or bhakti which is considered the easiest way to reach to sri krishna ,the brahma
In Bhakti path,you must need a means to proceed.And Nirguna can"t be a means as its unthinkable and unimaginable.So Saguna sakara form is essential.
In jnana path,you may not need a sakara-saguna form to do worship,as you totally focus upon your own brahman self and perceiving everything as nothing but brahman,Still Guru will be the sakara form at time of learning,help,shower of path.
But bhakti is the easiest and most wonderful path as It is similar to our nature/swabhaba,jnana is contrary to our very human nature,thats why more difficult.
Again in bhakti,both journey aswell as destination are sweeter and very beautiful and the highest destination of PURE BHAKTI is madhuryananda/prema-sevattorogati,but in jnana,journey is hard,destination is Brahmananda/kevalananda.
But in Bhakti in santa-bhava(baidhi/according to scriptural bhakti) one may attain brahmananda/kevalananda.
One more thing will help you to understand saguna nature of God/Guru.Guru is nirguna,then how we see Guru in human form?Because out of compassion towards us,Nirguna Guru descends one step down to take saguna form in a human guru so that he can help us.Thats why though Nirguna Guru is not visible to us,but we should never think thst Human Guru as Human,but Parambrahman itself.
This is the reason why..sahasrara/crown chakra is place for Nirguna brahman/jagatguru.Just below it is satadala chakra-100lotus chakra is place for Guru.
Last edited by anirvan; 03 April 2012 at 06:33 AM.
Man-naathah Shri Jagan-nathah Mat-guru-shri jagad-guruhu.
Mad-atma sarva-bhutatma tasmai Shri Gurave Namah.
My Lord is the Lord of Universe; My teacher is the teacher of the
entire universe; and my Self is the Self of all. My salutations at the lotus-feet
of such a Guru, who has revealed such knowledge to me.