khalsa rejects

[amra]

"Please explain. Hinduism has nothing to do with the veda? Hinduism is naastik?"

What is understood as Hinduism in the minds of contemporary people has nothing to do with Veda. It is a vague mixture of concepts extracted from the true traditions of the indian subcontinent and packaged together. Which is why it now attracts mentally unstable westerners who are out shopping for 'spirituality' and find a nicely packaged consumer product labelled 'Hinduism'.

Now the Veda is real knowledge real power to change things and cause effects in real life. It is a sacred science. The essence of Veda is in every valid tradition even though the forms change according to the mental climate or how the majority of people think. If people do not speak Sanskrit then the Veda cannot be transmitted in Sanskrit because in a persons mind he does not have the knowledge of sanskrit to be able to understand. So the vehicle of transmission, for the Veda, has to change according to what mundane knowledge people possess. Modern Hinduism is not able to transmit Veda. Because its concepts have become devoid of meaning and of a real deep understanding. This is not to devalue the concepts of the Ancient Indians but todays humanity are just after titillation and do not understand the concepts and do not make efforts to understand.

[Sahasranama]

I wonder where did you study the vedas to come to this conclusion?

[sm78]

The Sikh teaching is Veda.
The Sikh Gurus taught the Veda
So did the semitic faiths before they were distorted beyond recognition.

But Hinduism does not have anything to do with the Veda
Hinduism is Naastik

Lol...It will be great if we can get christians and moslems to say this in their bid for conversion...somebody please pass this idea to the evangelists!

[Divine Kala]

And my Hindu Brothers... Please understand that the Sikhs hate us. Sikhs hate Hindoos.

Then please explain why Sikhs attend my local mandir and participate in the aarti every Sunday?

[TTCUSM]

Then please explain why Sikhs attend my local mandir and participate in the aarti every Sunday?

Obviously, he doesn't mean all Sikhs hate us.

However, one must keep in mind that Sikhism originally began as a rejection of Hindu practices. Therefore, one should not be too surprised if he encounters anti-Hindu sentiments among Sikhs.

During the Raj, the British sponsored the Tat Khalsa movement, which tried to emphasize the distance between Sikh and Hindu traditions.

During the 1980s, there was the Khalistan movement, which tried to break Punjab off from the rest of India and declare it as a "Sikh Republic".

[kv_rangan]

Then please explain why Sikhs attend my local mandir and participate in the aarti every Sunday?

Okay... Then why all Sikh websites are in hate words towards Hindus and Hinduism. Do you know, even I attend Gurdwara every weekend in Chennai. If you ppl do not like idolatry then you are free to refrain from it. But why many Sikh websites tell many bad things about Ram, Krishan,etc.? This drives me to the conclusion that Sikhs hate Hindus.


And now... I can see many RSS people and VHP, BJP and Arya Samajis defending Sikhs here. You (RSS, VHP, BJP, etc.) people are politicians. I have no love for the Sangh parivar. So my loyalty is tied to Hinduism and Hindus. To some extent I respect the Sikh Gurus.

[kv_rangan]

Well... at least they have a good rapport with Hindus. But, in many Sikh websites I can see many people hurling blasphemous words against Ram and Krishna. Why? They spit hatred at Hindus. why? Some even don't know the accomplishments of Adi Shankar and Shri Ramanuj and blaspheme both by statig the former is the guru of the latter. Actually Shankar and Ramanuj preached two contradictory concepts.
Even I visit the Gurudwaara in Chennai on every weekend.

They also have started to abuse Vajpayee. They don't even know what Kushwant Singh said about Vajpayee (Though I do not belong to the BJP and I never cast my vote):

It was the Congress (I) leaders who instigated mobs in 1984 and got more than 3000 people killed. I must give due credit the BJP for showing courage and protecting helpless Sikhs during those difficult days. No less a person than Atal Bihari Vajpayee himself intervened at a couple of places to help poor taxi drivers.

All these made me to come to a conclusion that many Sikhs hate Hindus. That's all. If I'm wrong then please correct me.

But is there anyone here to refute my points made previously... a long lengthy lecture...?

[kv_rangan]

"Please explain. Hinduism has nothing to do with the veda? Hinduism is naastik?"

What is understood as Hinduism in the minds of contemporary people has nothing to do with Veda. It is a vague mixture of concepts extracted from the true traditions of the indian subcontinent and packaged together. Which is why it now attracts mentally unstable westerners who are out shopping for 'spirituality' and find a nicely packaged consumer product labelled 'Hinduism'.

Now the Veda is real knowledge real power to change things and cause effects in real life. It is a sacred science. The essence of Veda is in every valid tradition even though the forms change according to the mental climate or how the majority of people think. If people do not speak Sanskrit then the Veda cannot be transmitted in Sanskrit because in a persons mind he does not have the knowledge of sanskrit to be able to understand. So the vehicle of transmission, for the Veda, has to change according to what mundane knowledge people possess. Modern Hinduism is not able to transmit Veda. Because its concepts have become devoid of meaning and of a real deep understanding. This is not to devalue the concepts of the Ancient Indians but todays humanity are just after titillation and do not understand the concepts and do not make efforts to understand.

Thus proclaims an Arya Samaji...... man I'm sick of these Arya Samajis, Sangh, ISKCON, etc....

[kv_rangan]

Divine Kala wrote
Then please explain why Sikhs attend my local mandir and participate in the aarti every Sunday?

Ok... then why many sardars are angry against Hindus. in many websites I see them literally slander Rama, Krishna, Sankaracharya and Ramanuja. Why the head of Rashtr Sikh Sangat Rulda Singh killed? is it for the Hindu-Sikh unit that he's preaching?

Why?

[dogra]

OH dear, listen fella, not all people hate, websites can state this and that, do not fall prey to communalism spread the truth of Sanatan Dharma, show the true humanity within it.

Try this site:
http://agniveer.com/821/vedas-and-shudra/